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[goosefish]

Wow.

Tricky question to answer. Someone should write an essay about it. It has interesting conflicts of all kinds: sport, commercial, tournament rules and regulations.

[zimmy]

what the heck is all that lead doing in the fish. I don't really understand yo yoing, but if thats what results it seems a little... i can't think of the right words.

[jim sylvester]

classic yo yo aftermath

all the pieces even line up


that fish hit 12 or 13 yo/yo's in its lifetime

[goosefish]

If you guys think this thread should be deleted that's fine. I don't feel totally right about pasting another board on this one. I only thought it was an interesting debate. If any moderator thinks this post is out-of-bounds...........

[Mike P]

I think this post is fine and John allows links for the most part.

You can't make this decision based on personal feelings. Everyone on MV knows that Lev is a straight shooter, but they have to be fair. Another well-known angler had a fish DQ's because it had yo-yo weights in it. They have to apply the rules equally. That's the only way to keep the integrity of the Derby. If they allow "yo-yo" weights dollars to donuts someone will load a fish with them.

It's going to be a recurring problem given how many comms are yo-yoing around the Elizabeths in season.

[Raven]

if fish cannot digest lead
then it stays in their stomachs.

that being said...

it's simple really ...you weigh the lead
and subtract that weight from the fish.

[vineyardblues]

Very simple call, they can not enter that fish, it's simple.
They dunk the fish to remove all sand and also remove the lure/fly.
I have seen at other fishing contests they will not let a fish stuffed with ice cubes in the contest!
I also think Lev should buy a lottery ticket
Yet another Martha's Vineyard Mystery

VB

[Squibby17]

I read that thread on the Derby website yesterday, I met Lev very briefly last year. He is a fantastic fisherman not only for bass but albies, blues etc just look at the derby board from the past few years.

I'm anti Yo' Yo ing for sure. Unfortunately you can still catch fish that have ate them before. I don't think you can count a fish with lead in it's stomach there is just too much grey area for future fish and dirty anglers. Too bad Lev weighed in a 45+lb fish earlier in the derby too.

[zacs]

Originally Posted by vineyardblues

Very simple call, they can not enter that fish, it's simple.
They dunk the fish to remove all sand and also remove the lure/fly.
I have seen at other fishing contests they will not let a fish stuffed with ice cubes in the contest!
I also think Lev should buy a lottery ticket
Yet another Martha's Vineyard Mystery

VB

i guess you are right. But it is just such a shame that the guy catches such a fish, and by no fault of his own, it is DQ'd.

does anyone know how much lead was in Lev's fish?

I feel bad for Lev. But not too bad... i've seen his record and know he will be into plenty more fish this size.

[MarshCappa]

Do they eat a fish with that much lead in it's belly? I wouldn't.