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View Poll Results: Should this kid have been TASERED
Yes absolutely 19 44.19%
No way,he deserved it 4 9.30%
Those cops were unjustified 20 46.51%
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:54 PM   #1
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Wow don't even know how to respond to that other than you just don't get it.

Its not about laws.Its about changing people's attitudes and core philosophies.

A perfect example is the 2nd amendment as our fore-fathers interpreted it to which I'm a firm believer.Under YOUR belief system we should have laws to govern it,pro or con.What I believe is change how people feel:killing is wrong.

If everybody can leave their houses without fear of being shot and I can leave mine with my AR-15 without fear of being arrested then that's how it should be.

Feel free to substitute any one of our 1st ten Amendments and the argument is just as legit and just.

AMERICANS DON'T BE BLIND!

Like I said you just don't get it.My referance to other countries and their laws is 100% applicable.Blind faith is just that:
blind faith.

PS.This continuing referance to martyrs is dumb-ass.If you want to be a martyr you must accept the fact that you're going to die for your cause.No point in even bringing it up a second time.

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Old 09-25-2007, 09:51 PM   #2
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Basswipe - in my last post I agreed that my "martyr" reference was hyperbole - excessive exaggeration used to make a point. Your "dumbass" comment was disrespectful and not relevant to my earlier post. I know the kid is not a martyr, but I believe he has a complex nonetheless. As for me getting it, I do get that I am expressing my opinion like others have done here and you can attack me and question my intelligence if you want to. You do not know me though, so you should refrain from questioning what I know or don't know. You say that this is not about the law, but to me it is, in the context of what the police did. The kid disobeyed a police order (which is against the law in FL) and then resisted arrest. They used the force that they thought was necessary, whether you agree or not. To compare this situation to Tienamin Square, the American Revolution and Tibet is something I don't agree with. By doing so, I think you are either implying that the kid is an agent of change or you are severely diminishing the importance of the other events. They are just not even close to being on the same level. Do I think that the police or government are always right? No, but I respect our country and I respect our laws. I do agree with your statement that peoples attitudes and core philosophies must change if the world is going to change. But, I also believe that laws must be enforced so that we can grow as a nation.
As far as this particular issue, let's just agree to disagree. I do appreciate some good back and forth debate, and hope that you were not offended by anything I wrote here. I didn't make it personal, nor did I question your intelligence. I am following up with a pm so that you may understand where I am coming from a little better.
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