Barry Bonds - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Mike P · 08-06-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Can you believe Aaron only won 1 MVP award? But man.....think about who was in the NL all those years?!?!?!? Mays, Clemente, McCovey, Frank Robinson....heck I think he won 2 in the NL? Snider, Musial for a bit early in Hanks career!!! Thats not even scratching the surface!

It didn't help that the Braves sucked for most of his career. But you're right--the late 50s, 60s and early 70s were the golden days of baseball.

The AL had Mantle, Yaz, Killebrew, Kaline, Cash, Colavito, Oliva, Carew and so on.

Pitchers? Oh, just some hackers named Koufax, Drysdale, Gibson, Seaver, Marichal, McDowell, Lolich, Tiant, Palmer.

Do you realize that in one year--1969 or 1970 I think--the entire 4 man rotation for the Orioles were 20 game winners? Palmer, McNally, Dobson and Cuellar. Now you don't have four 20 game winners in the whole league--maybe not in both leagues.

Remember Denny McLain--only 30 game winner of my lifetime, and the last 30 game winner any of us will ever see. You might see another .400 hitter, someone might hit 90 HRs, but no pitcher today gets enough starts to win 30.

BigFish · 08-06-2007, 09:35 PM

Yeah Mike....add Spahn, Ford, G. Perry....crap the list goes on.....all perennial 20 game winners! Even the so-called "scrubs" by the standards of the time were winning 15 games a year because the teams were so laden with the best defensive players ever and the best hitters ever from 1 thru 9.......teams from today could not play with those teams....its a fact!

Mike P · 08-06-2007, 10:18 PM

Imagine an All Star team with Aaron, Mays and Clemente across the outfield? It probably was a regular occurrence. I don't particularly remember those games except for the fact that the AL regularly got their clock cleaned. I think they lost something like 19 of 20 in one stretch.

I remember one AS game where Seaver started and struck out 7 of the 9 batters he faced--AL All Stars, no less, some of the best sluggers of all time. If he could have pitched the whole game I'd bet on a perfecto that day--he was untouchable. I doubt he threw 30 pitches in his three innings.