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07-15-2007, 08:58 AM
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vote yas ,done
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07-18-2007, 02:30 PM
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Sorry Mike but i voted no, and my wife and I will be voting no on the 28th if the town really holds an election for this issue. I don't see the benefit for the town, I see more bad than good. Long term it looks like the wrong decision. The town has more important issues, a casino will not be the answer to our budget shortages. Maybe I should apply as town manager, I couldn't be any worse than the last guy 
if they get federal permission and state permission, wouldn't they still need to pass thru the building dept. in town? The towns people should have a say in this matter. |
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07-21-2007, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
if they get federal permission and state permission, wouldn't they still need to pass thru the building dept. in town? The towns people should have a say in this matter.
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I'm not sure they would need to. Like swimmer pointed out; once they are a "soveriegn nation". Almost anything goes.
Even if Middleboro votes NO the tribe can still build a casino there. The NO vote won't stop that as they will eventually get what they want once a "soveriegn nation". A NO vote will mean everything the tribe is offering goes out the window and the town will only get a pittance of the deal.
It is kind of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" for the NO voters.
A yes vote will just make it easier for the tribe to go for a full gaming license. They could open a bingo hall now and eventually go up from there with no town approval. So comes back to "damned if ya do and ....
From what I hear the backer is very liquid financially. And he is backing the tribe to the hilt. Supposedly he is 5 Bil. liquid. |
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07-21-2007, 06:48 PM
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soveriegn nation or not, if they do this, they will own the town, they will outnumber us all and be able to control town meetings in the future and have free reign 
I don't see how a casino adds anything at all to the economy of Mass., it seems like just moving money around, mostly out of the pockets of those who can't afford it similar to the state lottery, but the state lottery puts many more times back into the communities than any casino does, the casino profits go to the investors and the tribe I guess. I wonder if people who are part wompanoag can get part of the rewards or if you have to be 100% 
fishbones makes a good point
Mike, like I said to you before, it's great that you might be able to personally be able to benefit because of your business, but the townspeople will have to put up with the negatives.
They are moving too fast, they want us to jump at this chance and that raises my suspicion level by them pretty much demanding a decision. The whole issue is a cluster |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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07-22-2007, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
soveriegn nation or not, if they do this, they will own the town, they will outnumber us all and be able to control town meetings in the future and have free reign
Mike, like I said to you before, it's great that you might be able to personally be able to benefit because of your business, but the townspeople will have to put up with the negatives.
They are moving too fast, they want us to jump at this chance and that raises my suspicion level by them pretty much demanding a decision. The whole issue is a cluster |
A truly successful business affects everyones life for the better, for the most part. With every successful business comes downfalls/pitfalls: such as high traffic counts. If a high tech company bought the land the indians did you would still find drug dealing inside and outside the building just as you will with a casino. I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THERE ARE NO ILLEGAL DRUGS IN MIDDLEBORO NOW, SO THAT WILL BE HARD FOR TOWN OFFICIALS TO COME TO GRIPS WITH WITH.  With casinos or rather when the word casino and its associated problems is used in any media it is almost always used in conjunction with corruption, prostitution, not as a possibibilty, but a likely probababilty. There will be hundreds of businesses whose level of success and affluence will improve over the short term and long term. Just as if a high tech company was being built in the same spot. It will be up to the town and state officals to enforce the laws in a fair and equal anner right from the start. Then again you will always have the lenient judges that wont do anything to those criminals, but that is another story. |
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