America today

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

entitled

That is the key word right there. me and my wife have been discussing this lately. Everyone seems to think they are "Entitled" to everything. The rules were made for other people.....not them.

[chris L]

What do you want from life
Someone to love
and somebody that you can trust
What do you want from life
To try and be happy
while you do the nasty things you must

Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to:
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple?


but you are entitled to nothing else .

[Backbeach Jake]

Entitlement. Sure we witnessed our Parents working hard and steadily getting somewhere. Having a nice house and car on one income and when the time came they could count on their Social Security check and a pension check as well. Do we, their children have that deal? No. Two incomes, working hard to maintain the status quo, Social Security is about to go the way of the Do-Do, and what the hell is a pension? I don't feel entitled, I feel robbed of the American dream. The only jobs staying in this Country are service jobs, and if you're in IT Services, your job may still fly away to India. The only reason my job is still here is the fact that sending your car overseas to be repaired is too expensive, but I'm sure someone is working on it.
The kids aren't displaying Entitlement, they're displaying the white flag, they surrender because they know how hopeless it will be for them when they are 50, so eff it ...

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

Entitlement. Sure we witnessed our Parents working hard and steadily getting somewhere. Having a nice house and car on one income and when the time came they could count on their Social Security check and a pension check as well. Do we, their children have that deal? No. Two incomes, working hard to maintain the status quo, Social Security is about to go the way of the Do-Do, and what the hell is a pension? I don't feel entitled, I feel robbed of the American dream. The only jobs staying in this Country are service jobs, and if you're in IT Services, your job may still fly away to India. The only reason my job is still here is the fact that sending your car overseas to be repaired is too expensive, but I'm sure someone is working on it.
The kids aren't displaying Entitlement, they're displaying the white flag, they surrender because they know how hopeless it will be for them when they are 50, so eff it ...

I see people everywhere, everyday realizing the "American Dream". Those are the people who understand that they are not entitled to it and instead have plotted a course in their lives that allows them to earn it.
Waving a white flag isn't part of their plan.

[Backbeach Jake]

Yes there are those....as well as the folks who are working 3 jobs and getting nowhere. It's all about the end of the month. I've worked for companies that won't write a work order the last week of the month, they're too busy fudging the figures.

[Jenn]

when my parents married they were able to build a decent home that cost one and a half times my fathers yearly salary. (remember only one income). Lets say you took that same percentage to modern day. You would have to make $100K a year to get $150,000 house.


.....just some food for thought....go ahead and think about that one for a few

[Joe]

Politics is just another vehicle for fame and money....and power...

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by Jenn

when my parents married they were able to build a decent home that cost one and a half times my fathers yearly salary. (remember only one income). Lets say you took that same percentage to modern day. You would have to make $100K a year to get $150,000 house.


.....just some food for thought....go ahead and think about that one for a few

that was back in the day when mortgages were interest only and you had to pay a bullet payment at the end.

the introduction of the amortized loan, which forces people to pay down principal over time, and heretofore ridiculously low rates (as well as creative financing schemes), lenders now use three times cash flow (annual salary, as adjusted) as a rule of thumb.