22 dead kids

[Swimmer]

Supposedly a Korean national in the country about since he was 8 years old did this. Awful, simply awful.

[Diamond Tackle]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

Supposedly a Chinese national in the country about 18 months did this. Awful, simply awful.

Doesn't sound like a US citizen then , does it.
I guess we are a little too easy with the student visas.


Mosholu, where do you hail from in the states? Not near mosholu parkway in the Bronx by any chance is it ? cause Im very familiar with that area.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Tinman

I guess we are a little too easy with the student visas.

Actually it's the other way around. Tighter post 9/11 restrictions are keeping a lot of talent overseas.

It's pretty revolting to see this tragic incident used for emotional political statements before the blood is even dry. Sure, guns don't kill people, but there's a time and a place for that debate.

-spence

[Diamond Tackle]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually it's the other way around. Tighter post 9/11 restrictions are keeping a lot of talent overseas.
-spence

"Talent", Perhaps, "Crazy" obviously NOT. Maybe we need to screen people differently and not worry about offending non citizens by profiling. I just wonder if there is a history of mental illness here with this kid. I wonder.
The facts will speak for themselves.
and btw, how and when we DISCUSS this is also part of another one of our rights, remember the 1st amendment? No political gain, just a real tragedy, and I think there are ways to prevent this from happening again, at least to this degree.

[spence]

I'd wager no amount of profiling or VISA restrictions would have stopped this...unless the nutcase had a crimininal record.

-spence

[bart]

yeah a bunch of drunk college kids carrying around concealed weapons is a good idea. get real

what a horrible, horrible tragedy...

[striperondafly]

Originally Posted by bart

yeah a bunch of drunk college kids carrying around concealed weapons is a good idea. get real

what a horrible, horrible tragedy...

I was waiting for someone to say that. I'm pro gun - but that is ridiculos

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by bart

yeah a bunch of drunk college kids carrying around concealed weapons is a good idea. get real

what a horrible, horrible tragedy...

I was thinking of if even just one proffessor had the right to carry, maybe it would not have escalated.

the whole thing is sad

the more screwed up this world gets, the more these things will happen unfortunately.

[JohnR]

One or two professors on campus wouldn't make much difference and a student gun-free dorm makes a little sense (guns & alcohol?? - bad mix). BUT campus security should be armed and perhaps a better response system in place. Horse is out of the barn unfortunately...