22 dead kids

[Rockfish9]

If he wanted to kill people so badly, I'm sure the Army would have been more than happy to put this maniac to work.....

The only reason I can see for someone like that to take out so many innocent lives is to become a marter.... nothing else makes sense.

truely a sad, sad day....

[fishpoopoo]

it's too soon to tell what's motivated this guy, but nobody's ruling out sudden jihad syndrome.

i'd put my money on a stressed out college kid who just snapped. a girlfriend or ex-girlfriend was mentioned.

[Raven]

back scatter comes to mind....

what a sickening event....

So many families with tradgedy...as if the conflict
in Iraq isn't enough ....

how the assailants turn harming oneself into
harming everyone they can to deliver their hatred
or dissatisfaction will be the riddle to solve.

[Slingah]

too much to comprehend.......
sad day in deed......
God save us from ourselves........

[wheresmy50]

Rest in peace. Best wishes to their families.

It would have been great if someone else had a gun, but unfortunately it didn't work out that way. How could it with the miniscule level of legal concealed carry? Maybe the police made a mistake, maybe not. I'm sure they don't get a lot of practice with that type of thing down there. They'll be loosing a lot of sleep trying to think of what they could have done differently.

At least the shooter is dead. No silly trial & life sentence.

The news is already having a field day with this - "How could this have been prevented?" Unreal. They're just cashing in.

[fishpoopoo]

'nuff said.

[fishpoopoo]

if anyone is in to grim statistics, here is the worst mass school killing in u.s. history (it's not Virginia Tech or Columbine or UT):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

[mosholu]

Bassturbed please come out of the bunker and smell reality.
Concealed weapons were the cause of the loss of 32 innocent lives.

[fishpoopoo]

baloney.

a fox can have his way in the chicken coop.

32 people died because a nutbag was on the loose and there was a no guns on campus policy.

Estimated percentage of Virginians who carry concealed: 1% or more

Number of VT students: 25,000

Number of VT students who might have been able to stop this tragedy from unfolding if allowed by school to conceal carry: 250

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

Monday - April 16, 2007


CARNAGE AT VIRGINIA TECH

Like me, I'm sure many of you are busy tracking the news stories out of Blacksburg, Virginia. A person, presumably a student, armed with two semi-automatic pistols has hilled at least 32 people. The shooter is dead. Whether by his own hand, or at the hands of law enforcement, is not yet known.

As the initial shock wears off you can bet that the anti-Second Amendment people wall be coming out of the woodwork. By the time the evening network newscasts hit we will have no shortage of spokesmen for various anti-gun groups stepping forth to issue their tired call for an end to the private ownership of handguns.

This is undoubtedly the worst school shooting, high school, college or otherwise, in the history of our country. There are some facts, however, about some of these school shootings of which you probably are not aware. Do you know, for instance, that at least three shootings in high schools were stopped by civilians with guns? Civilians, not law enforcement. In one case a civilian was traveling past a school when he saw children running from the building. One told him that there was a student inside shooting people. The civilian pulled his gun, ran in side, and confronted the student. The student put down the gun and surrendered. In another case a high school vice-principal heard that there was a student in the hallways with a gun. He sprinted a half-mile to his car. He had a gun in his car so he had to park off campus. He then sprinted back with the gun to confront the student. Lives saved.

The point here is that you are never ever going to get the guns out of the hands of those who want to use them for carnage. Never. Gun control programs will only succeed in getting the guns out of the hands of people who want them and need them for self-defense. Never, in the history of America's gun control movement, has anyone set forth a viable program to get the guns out of the hands of those who would use them to commit crimes. Similarly, the gun control movement will never give any fair coverage at all to the people who use guns to save their own lives, or the lives of others.

We'll have much more to say about this tomorrow. For now, you should know that earlier this year the Virginia General Assembly failed to act on House Bill 1572. This bill would have allowed college students and employees to carry handguns on campus --- with appropriate permits, of course. It died in subcommittee. Larry Hincker, a spokesman for Virginia Tech, the site of today's carnage, said "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Well .. how's today for safety?

If it had been legal for students, employees or faculty members with permits to carry guns on the campus, is it at all possible that there might be some students alive today who didn't make it through the carnage? Do you think the actions of the Virginia General Assembly stopped the gunman from getting his guns and carrying them to the campus?

More on this tomorrow.

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by mosholu

Bassturbed please come out of the bunker and smell reality.
Concealed weapons were the cause of the loss of 32 innocent lives.

Get yer facts straight.31 Innocent lives unless you consider the killer innocent.

The state of VA. does not allow the carrying of concealed weapons without stringent regs.If VA had better laws and the university had not banned guns altogether someone might have been able to prevent this.

If YOU were in a position to prevent the killing of another person by you having the use of a firearm would you kill the perp to save the lives of the innocent?Of course you would.

Here in America those states/cities/towns where its permissable for good law-abiding citizens to carry the crime rate is negligible.This is an undisputable fact.

You want proof?Ask Texas state representative Suzanna Gratia.She watched her father and mother along with 21 others were murdered.
She was the #1 instrumental person in getting TX CC passed.The TX crime rate is so low its actually peaceful.

Best advice...worry about your own country.The UK has enough of its share of serial killers,child molestors/kindnappers/murderers for you even begin to judge US society.

[Diamond Tackle]

Originally Posted by mosholu

Bassturbed please come out of the bunker and smell reality.
Concealed weapons were the cause of the loss of 32 innocent lives.

oh boy, here we go. We are going to be lectured now from across the big pond.
I hear the crime rate has really gone down since they banned most of your guns over there..
im not getting sucked into this debate ,but please stick to politics in your own country.do not lecture us, esp not at this tragic time.
want to talk fishing?, we are all ears.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by mosholu

Bassturbed please come out of the bunker and smell reality.
Concealed weapons were the cause of the loss of 32 innocent lives.

Wow, I thought it was a criminal acting out on unmarmed school kids that was the cause of this. Who knew a gun in your waistband could do this all by itself.