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04-01-2007, 11:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
Posts: 2,260
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Once a plug leaves my hand and goes to a friend its not mine anymore so they can do what they want with it sell it,trade it,fish it or beat it with a hammer.I can always make more and whats the sense in giving something away if your going to be concerned whats going to happen to it.As for time frame of how long to wait before tradeing or selling it imho its not mine anymore so as soon as it hits your hand its none of my business.And if your in a bind and i can help you count me in!My .02
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04-01-2007, 01:00 PM
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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What about when you see guys buying retail from someone (who is trying to keep the price reasonable) only to flip them on ebay. He had no intention of ever fishing them, and bought them only to resell.
This is what is going on now with these cowboys, some of the ebay prices are insane. The retailer and the builder will eventually react to this and it will not be good for the guy looking to fish with these.
I don't collect plugs (although my wife would argue that) I fish them. I understand collectors trading and paying 100's for a plug but not fisherment who use them.
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04-01-2007, 01:37 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Ok .... Some say its cool for person they gave a plug to,,to sell or trade it ..question ???? Do you give them another ??? Not relating any personal experience ... just throwing this out there.. I always expected feed back on a plug ... yea/nea.. 
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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04-01-2007, 01:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,500
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I think it's clearly crossing the line to sell a plug given for feedback or as a gesture of good will.
Other than that you're pretty much on your own. Although I'd hate to see obviously cheap plugs sold in the community be sucked up by a dealer and flipped.
I still think the Ebay thing with MAC's and Beachmasters is some unknown scam.
-spence
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04-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
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To me it's a respect thing.
I understand how much time and effort goes into making a plug and feel honored if someone gives me one.Some i fish, others i hang.
Having said that, if someone needs $$ and sells a given, i would be happy if it helped in some small way.
Feedback is the greatest, pos or neg, but if i don't get it, i realize people have their favorites to fish. All ok .
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04-01-2007, 02:19 PM
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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If someone sold a plug that was given to him as a gift or for feedback...I think that is kind of rude. I By selling it you disrespect his gesture of kindness.
Give him another? Hell no! I would ask how they liked that earlier one and did they catch anything with it...watch them squirm a bit and catch them in a lie. 
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04-01-2007, 03:45 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eastendlu
Once a plug leaves my hand and goes to a friend its not mine anymore so they can do what they want with it sell it,trade it,fish it or beat it with a hammer.
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Exactly.
Stay away from my eels though... 
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04-01-2007, 04:00 PM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern Connecticut
Posts: 194
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I agree that if you give someone a plug, its not yours anymore and the person you gave it to is free to do whatever with it BUT, if they are planning to sell it instead of fish it they should have the guts to tell you up front. (I hope to be good enough some day to have this problem!)
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04-01-2007, 07:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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ANYTHING I AM GIVEN STAYS WITH ME TILL I CROAK, SELLING SOMETHING SOMEONE TOILED ON ESPECIALLY TO GIVE TO YOU IS DISPICABLE. 
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Why even try.........
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04-01-2007, 08:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
ANYTHING I AM GIVEN STAYS WITH ME TILL I CROAK, SELLING SOMETHING SOMEONE TOILED ON ESPECIALLY TO GIVE TO YOU IS DISPICABLE. 
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I'm in the same boat.
Although I respect anyone's choice to do as they please with an item they own, for me I just value a plug that was given to me FAR more then the $$ I could get for it. I have more then a few one off items that plug builders have given me that would go for frightening numbers on eBay. But they represent something a friend made for me, so there's just no way I could sell them. They may get fished to their death though...
They are gifts from friends and I treat them as such.
I guess it really depends on how the "giving" takes place as well as the nature of the plug. A plug that isn't special in any way is kind of a different game, but if someone built something specific for me (whether it be by request or just as a thank you or a token of friendship) it's either going fishing or it will sit on my mantle on display.
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04-01-2007, 09:49 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Any plug I get given to me stays with me, If I buy it I can resell it but it is my choice to do what I like
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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04-01-2007, 11:04 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bean Town
Posts: 466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
ANYTHING I AM GIVEN STAYS WITH ME TILL I CROAK, SELLING SOMETHING SOMEONE TOILED ON ESPECIALLY TO GIVE TO YOU IS DISPICABLE. 
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04-02-2007, 12:12 PM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 451
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short of being in dire straits what kind of sicko would part with a hand built plug????
this whole "flea-bay" thing has me wondering if i should take out a rider with my insurance co. to cover my plugs
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04-02-2007, 01:32 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
Posts: 2,357
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This stuff always goes way too far... we need a Constitution for crissakes
I'll start with the declaration of Plugdependence..
When in the course of swapping events it bcomes necessary for one builder to dissolve the obligatory bands which have bound plugs gifted, traded and sold that once connected them with his plug bag and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Plugging and of Swappings God entitled them, a decent respect to the opinions of the peanut gallery requires that a trader or seller must declare the causes which impel them to separation.
We hold these plugs to be self evident, that all plugs are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are to be traded or sold for the pursuit of happiness, LARGE or monetary gain- that to secure these rights, flame wars are instigated among men, derriving that their just powers, that don't ammount to a hill of beans, from the consent of the builder. Such consent shall not exist in this our free website where Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness shall prevail form this day forth and that whenever a Falme War shall be deemed destructive of these ends, it is the right of the members (in good standing) to alter or to abolish said flame war and to institute a new Flame War, laying it's foundation on such priciples and organizing its plug bags in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their sealer and epoxy. Prudence, indeed, will change, will dictate that future flame wars over plug sales and trades and should not be changed for light and transient flame wars; and accordingly said plugs should be treated as property owned by the bearer and legal to do with what he pleases.....
Should I go on?
If you have it your possession it's yours to do with what you please, all the plugs I give away I hope that they will be fished, if they're going to hang up, I'd prefer that they are sold maybe the new guy will actually fish them.. However I am guilty of hanging a few plugs... but I even fished my Tadpole... I bet I'm the only one who did that
-Dave
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