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Old 03-14-2007, 04:47 PM   #1
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What ever it takes.....you the legal man and you know what it takes but it seems something needs to be done....

I for the most part just want to work , fish, fondel my wife and raise my 2 kids in a safe some what sane world......
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:32 PM   #2
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What ever it takes.....you the legal man and you know what it takes but it seems something needs to be done....
Ok, so you get your wish. The 14th Amendment has now been modified to not regard children of illegal immigrants as US citizens.

People are still flooding across the border. Hospitals are still providing free service driving up costs. You do have a lot of children who are in the country regardless and so what's their status?

How has this improved my life?

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Old 03-14-2007, 06:09 PM   #3
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Ok, so you get your wish. The 14th Amendment has now been modified to not regard children of illegal immigrants as US citizens.

People are still flooding across the border. Hospitals are still providing free service driving up costs. You do have a lot of children who are in the country regardless and so what's their status?

How has this improved my life?

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Of course no single action will ease the burden illegals place on our country but this is a viable component of a larger plan. Kind of like the big argument that a fence wont prevent illegal entry. Of course it wont, but in conjunction with other actions it does provide a deterrent at the very least. A fence, increased border security, stiffer penalties for both illegals and employers and removing the anchor baby incentive are among the many things we need to do to curb this invasion.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:23 PM   #4
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I wonder if the Indians had these same conversations when the pilgrims landed.


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...it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:25 PM   #5
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I wonder if the Indians had these same conversations when the pilgrims landed.


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I bet they wish they had.
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:03 PM   #6
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I wonder if the Indians had these same conversations when the pilgrims landed.


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Only reply to this is; A lot of the world's history has been about devide and conquer.......... We could very well be heading in that direction.
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:24 PM   #7
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Spence,

What is your wish or ideas on how to handel this situation? You seem to be one to critique those ( Like me) that think differently from your point of view ( politicaly and socially) . If you have a personal view on what and how should this issue should be handeled, Please express it.
I am curious as to what your wish is on dealing Illegal Immagrant.
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:51 PM   #8
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What is your wish or ideas on how to handel this situation?
I'd support a variety of measures from increased border security (but not a grande wall), harsh fines for employers, a legal guest worker program with conditions and a challenging but legal path to citizenship for law abiding and taxpaying immigrants.

Illegals are a huge part of our economy, this is just how it is.

My comments on the 14th Amendment mostly reflect that I don't think it would really do much to help matters much.

Stripersnipr pretty much confirmed this

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