help stop the destruction at matunuck!

[MakoMike]

Just that the "ecosystems" you complain about geting covered over are just as artificial as the pumping sand onto the beaches.

[animal]

From what I've read about the Jersey project,it was a lot bigger in scale,and not well thought out.Am I correct that they closed herring runs with sand?
The problem at Matunuck needs to be addressed,and as said by Nib,it needs to be permanently addressed.Just the same,they gotta put the sand somewhere.If you ask me(which you didn't,I know)they're doing the right thing,but more needs to be done.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Just that the "ecosystems" you complain about geting covered over are just as artificial as the pumping sand onto the beaches.

So what is ur point..
Do u think what they did was good.
I wish I knew the dollar amounts that the FEDERAL Goverment kicked in.Off the top of my head in the high hundreds of millions an they are not done..for sand that washes back into the ocean..
So rich people can have their water front property..
Ya the jetty's where man made they existed long before I was born.
The life off these elevated structure's provided many hrs of enjoyment for many yrs for all that took advantage..
If it was to Ur enjoyment i'm sure u would see it differently..

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by NIB

So what is ur point..
Do u think what they did was good.
I wish I knew the dollar amounts that the FEDERAL Goverment kicked in.Off the top of my head in the high hundreds of millions an they are not done..for sand that washes back into the ocean..
So rich people can have their water front property..
Ya the jetty's where man made they existed long before I was born.
The life off these elevated structure's provided many hrs of enjoyment for many yrs for all that took advantage..
If it was to Ur enjoyment i'm sure u would see it differently..

As I see it, there are lot more people who enjoy the beach than those that enjoy the jetties, plus the jetties are still there. So if its a motter of who gets to enjoy what, I'd say that the money was well spent, since a lot more people enjoy the beach. Either way we are talking about man-made structure, not natural structure.

[zimmy]

I don't know the specifics of the coastal dynamics at matunuck, but in general, beach replacement is futile, rediculously expensive and... stupid. In this case, who knows what it will do.

Before the stuff can be dumped there will have to be a completed env impact statement. It would look at the quality of the dredged material and the impact on the ecosystem where it gets dumped and stuff . If people disagree with the eis they can take legal action

[NIB]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

As I see it, there are lot more people who enjoy the beach than those that enjoy the jetties, plus the jetties are still there. So if its a motter of who gets to enjoy what, I'd say that the money was well spent, since a lot more people enjoy the beach. Either way we are talking about man-made structure, not natural structure.

Sure sounds good in theory..Thats why it was such a easy sell.
it should go down as one of the ACOE biggest blunders of all time..
Well the private beach owners thank u for replenishing their beaches..
What difference does it make what kind of structure it is...When black fish that use the structures to harbor their young can't do that anymore because there are no more crabs there..
An the herring that used to come into the ponds can't make it in because the flooms are choked up with sand..Or the inlets become downright dangerous because the they are shoalled in..
They great rip at sandy hook was not a man made structure..
Never Mind the promised access that is a joke.A narrow walkway with no parking..Miles of beach to use for the rich an famous..
U claim the jettys are still there.
What do u know about jetty's???
U seem to be hung up on arguing with me..
Alright I give..

[animal]

This one's easy.The channel needs dredging,the closest beaches to the channel needed replenishment.A lot more will be needed,but it's a start.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by animal

This one's easy.The channel needs dredging,the closest beaches to the channel needed replenishment.A lot more will be needed,but it's a start.

You got that right!

[Bill L]

A lot of people wanted the dredge spoils, unfortunately it will be a drop in the bucket. It wont be long before a seawall will be needed to protect structures and the road