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11-09-2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bronko
Unfortunately, I have a strong suspicion that with Pelosi and Rangel in positions of power and with the democratic party in control of congress there will be a lot more impetus to conduct investigations, issue subpoenas and hold hearings to vilify the current administration. I have a feeling that with the blind hate many democrats have for the Bush crowd, that the focus will shift from the "mess" that is Iraq to the fufillment of personal vendettas. We shall see.
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Ok, then how about Congress just does it's job and ensures the Executive Branch operates in an ethical and productive manner?
What you see as a "vendetta" I see as personal accountability. I used to think that Republicans stood for that...perhaps it's why so many fled the GOP this time around.
-spence
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11-09-2006, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Ok, then how about Congress just does it's job and ensures the Executive Branch operates in an ethical and productive manner?
What you see as a "vendetta" I see as personal accountability. I used to think that Republicans stood for that...perhaps it's why so many fled the GOP this time around.
-spence
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As long as the focus of our newly elected congress remains balanced and the safety and security of this great country is not compromised I will be satiated. I would just hate to see people tripping over each other in a mad rush to illustrate "personal accountability" while giving terrorists and individuals who want to harm this country a chance to take a deep breath.
I am not the only person who is extremely interested in seeing what plans this new congress has to cure the ills it has highlighted. There was a lot of rhetoric about getting out of Iraq, and exit strategies during these campaigns without an actual plan ever being set out. I wait with great anticipation.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-09-2006, 12:54 PM
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It's always frightening to see the enemys of the United states, such as Iran, celebrating the new Democratic congress.
Now this disturbs me....
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11-09-2006, 01:19 PM
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Gentleman, let's get back on topic here. How would you propose, if it were you in thedrivers seat, we settle the mess in Iraq. What in your opinion is the clearest track to the resolution of this conflict?
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Why even try.........
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11-09-2006, 01:27 PM
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Gentleman, let's get back on topic here. How would you propose, if it were you in thedrivers seat, we settle the mess in Iraq. What in your opinion is the clearest track to the resolution of this conflict?
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After reading the most excellent book "The End of Iraq" by Peter Galbraith I'm leaning towards the Joe Biden plan for a more loose federation based along ethnic lines that uses a central government to manage oil revenues.
The only solution to these problems will be serious bi-partisan pragmatic thinking...and dumping Rummy was a positive first step.
-spence
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11-09-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
After reading the most excellent book "The End of Iraq" by Peter Galbraith I'm leaning towards the Joe Biden plan for a more loose federation based along ethnic lines that uses a central government to manage oil revenues.
The only solution to these problems will be serious bi-partisan pragmatic thinking...and dumping Rummy was a positive first step.
-spence
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Thats an option and decision the Iraqi Government is entitled to.
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11-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
Thats an option and decision the Iraqi Government is entitled to.
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Not without our permission. Granted things are better than under Supreme Iraqi Commander Paul Bremmer, but they ain't doing anything radical without our ok. It may be an unwritten rule but it's still working that way.
-spence
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11-09-2006, 01:43 PM
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Ok..... since a very large number of combatants, Iraqi and foreign to Iraq, do not want us there at all I don`t see how its possible.
Saddam was The Don of a criminal empire which controlled a largely volatile nation by extreme brute force and control.... FEAR.
We are the enemy to many who live there. From Shock and Awe to all the ongoing policing and attempted inforcements and brutalities of war we are not the saviour country bringing peace and Democracy. We are the enemy.
We leave and the competing factions will only further devastate Iraq and each other in a quest for power and control.
Why are we there? I truly believe its about oil and establishing a base of operations for our military in an oil rich region. Said base would give us a foothold for future wars which seem impending.
I do not have an idea that I think is viable for a solution to staightening out this catastrophic mess.
It all appears to be a blackhole of sorts that destroys all who enter its field of influence.
On that cheery note..... I hope the fishing is better next year
Last edited by Skitterpop; 11-09-2006 at 02:02 PM..
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Good health and family
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11-09-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
Gentleman, let's get back on topic here. How would you propose, if it were you in thedrivers seat, we settle the mess in Iraq. What in your opinion is the clearest track to the resolution of this conflict?
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Intense focus on training and strengthening of Iraqs internal security forces. They and they alone can quell the internal violence inside their country.
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11-09-2006, 01:30 PM
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Intense focus on training and strengthening of Iraqs internal security forces. They and they alone can quell the internal violence inside their country.
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The problem isn't just training...there's a small issue with "motivation"
-spence
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11-09-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
The problem isn't just training...there's a small issue with "motivation"
-spence
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Motivation is definetely a component of the Training process. Any Marine will tell you.
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