Tell me something - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

ProfessorM · 11-07-2006, 10:07 AM

Curious why you ask Steve. Do you have a bunch of 304? I don't consider 304 very soft. It is a bitch to machine just like 316. I use the 308 till I run out then who knows, but for larger plugs, trolling types, I like 316. The reason for the 316 is I have had the front nose loop straighten out or distort the loop, lose it's shape, against the lip when I pull the tail loop up tight and wrap so I think the softer 308 is the reason. All pretty much the same price and I don't find either one more difficult to work with than the other, some do but not I. I would think the only possible way the thru wire will fail would be the nose loop pulling out. I can't see the tail loop coming undone, could distort, but not unravel. I also epoxy most of my stuff after wiring so rewiring later is not an option so got to use long lasting components. I would think 304 would be fine as it has excellent corrosion resistence slightly behind 316, which has more nickle, and is highly formable and weldable. Reels do have drags on them. P.

capesams · 11-07-2006, 12:23 PM

When I said soft..I should have said "annealed"it's the wire you can wrap around your finger....I know about metal content..more shine, more nickel..longer lasting etc...beachmaster..gibbs[older]..some blue streak used/uses this wire.

Again...has anyone heard of any complaints about the 304 annealed wire that's in beachmaster plug's? I've heard nothing and if that's true, then it must be fine an dandy to use.yes?no..maybe.

Backbeach Jake · 11-07-2006, 12:53 PM

If there were andthing wrong with a grade of wire or brand of hardware, rest assured that the hue and cry would be long and loud. Watch, I'll show you:

Van Staal.

(Jake jumps back)

ProfessorM · 11-07-2006, 01:45 PM

Didn't mean to tell you what you already know. I say it will be fine. Days gone by the fish were heavier and those plugs are still in existence. Plenty strong IMO. P.

capesams · 11-07-2006, 05:39 PM

no problem P.M...my thought's too...been useing it on smaller stuff like needle's,bambi swimmer's, but when going for the gold like 5-1/4 oz c.p.popper's and troller's an the like..I'll go cheap and use the 316 tough stuff.

Canalman · 11-08-2006, 10:01 AM

I've used both both no discernable difference. On hardware, I used rosco swivels for a while but I've seen many of them destroyed so I switched to Krok... so far so good. I've seen many mustads straigtened too... but I've even had a few VMCs straightened out... esp the siwash hooks... who knows....

-Dave

JHABS · 11-09-2006, 10:03 AM

Some things may seem over Kill but would rather not be under Gunned , You never know . Yes some of the other components work but for a Few Pennies why Skimp.