John Kerry

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

This isn't that complicated. It's just like if I say something stupid to my wife I didn't mean, she still wants me to say I'm sorry...

But to be honest, the entire thing is absurd. You're telling me the US MARINES need an appology over a botched joke?

Kerry is an easy target and I think a lot of the Bush Bots just feel good jumping on the pile.

-spence

As I said before he half/assed apoligized, I dont think an apology is needed. He said what he said and people will intrepret it as they choose apology or not. Bush, Hillary, and Ford to name a few felt an apology was required so after a few days he changed his position on apologizing and made an attempt at it. As far as Marines requiring it, nope I dont think all the apologies in the world are going to change their viewpoint of John Kerry. The Democrats at this point need to scramble to minimize the overall effect this will have on the Miltary vote. If our Miltary demonstrates a transposed Democratic strategy (Anything Against Bush) into Anything Against Kerry, it could hurt in 06 and 08. As far as the botched joke thing, his attempt at trying to make a joke referencing Bush as an uneducated idiot (As if refering to a sitting President as an uneducated idiot in War time is acceptable by any low standard of decency) has had the opposite effect especially seeing how Bush had a higher GPA at Yale then Kerry did. If there wasn't a pattern of these types of remarks by Kerry maybe this would go away as quietly as you would like.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

As I said before he half/assed apoligized, I dont think an apology is needed. He said what he said and people will intrepret it as they choose apology or not. Bush, Hillary, and Ford to name a few felt an apology was required so after a few days he changed his position on apologizing and made an attempt at it.

It's all about politics. The botched joke was political, the Whitehouse jumping on it was political, and the Dems calling for an appology was political...

As far as Marines requiring it, nope I dont think all the apologies in the world are going to change their viewpoint of John Kerry.

And still nearly all of the 40+ Iraq vets running for Congress are on the Democratic ticket.

The Democrats at this point need to scramble to minimize the overall effect this will have on the Miltary vote.

I think the US Military cares a lot more about where they're going to be sent, why they're going to be sent and if they'll be properly equipped with a plan for success!

THAN ANYTHING JOHN KERRY HAS TO SAY.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

It's all about politics. The botched joke was political, the Whitehouse jumping on it was political, and the Dems calling for an appology was political...

And still nearly all of the 40+ Iraq vets running for Congress are on the Democratic ticket.

I think the US Military cares a lot more about where they're going to be sent, why they're going to be sent and if they'll be properly equipped with a plan for success!

THAN ANYTHING JOHN KERRY HAS TO SAY.

-spence

Well if the Democrats are politicizing the issue I guess its okay, but shame on Republicans for the same thing,

While those 40 Democrat/Soldiers chose to run for office rather than fighting a War might tell us a little something in itself.

As far as what the Military thinks about John Kerry I have some first hand knowledge on that matter considering I have several family members both deployed and returned (and one volunteering to go back) from Iraq and trust me on this: They and their friends do not consider John Kerry a friend or a hero, and yes they do care when a Senator from their home state accuses them of Terrorizing women and children.
As far as being concerned about where and why they are deployed, of course they wonder where but being soldiers and airmen the why isn't really their concern. Accomplishing the mission they are assigned is their concern. While they may not agree with all of Bushs strategic policies they do have a far better understanding of them than you or I and they do agree with most. The objections they do have are expressed in a thoughtful and respectful manner. In my book that makes them better Soldiers, Airmen and Human Beings than Kerry ever thought of being. (By the way they all but one are college graduates)

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

While those 40 Democrat/Soldiers chose to run for office rather than fighting a War might tell us a little something in itself.

So you're saying they're running from Iraq to take the easy road in a life of politics.

I think you owe the brave fighting men and women of the US Armed Forces an appology.

-spence

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by spence

So you're saying they're running from Iraq to take the easy road in a life of politics.

I think you owe the brave fighting men and women of the US Armed Forces an appology.

-spence

Funny, when Kerry or any Dem rips into the military you dont demand any sort of appology from them. But now your offended by comments made by Stripersnipr? Helloooo double standard!

[spence]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Funny, when Kerry or any Dem rips into the military you dont demand any sort of appology from them. But now your offended by comments made by Stripersnipr? Helloooo double standard!

So you're taking his side?

You both owe the US Military an appology.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Funny, when Kerry or any Dem rips into the military you dont demand any sort of appology from them. But now your offended by comments made by Stripersnipr? Helloooo double standard!

Actually its pretty a typical response to be expected from the dark side. Twisting others statements to force fit it into their agenda. But lets clarify it a bit for those who cant see the forest for the trees. 40 soldiers left the military to run for Democratic office. Now that leaves a question as to why. Everyone of us is entitled to his or her opinion as to why. I have several possible conclusions but I'm not quite sure which one is most likely yet. Spence thinks that deserves an apology but calling a sitting President in war time an idiot and Kerry accusing our Troops of Terrorizing women and children doesn't. This is way beyond double standards. This is downright hypocrisy.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

Actually its pretty a typical response to be expected from the dark side. Twisting others statements to force fit it into their agenda. But lets clarify it a bit for those who cant see the forest for the trees. 40 soldiers left the military to run for Democratic office. Now that leaves a question as to why. Everyone of us is entitled to his or her opinion as to why. I have several possible conclusions but I'm not quite sure which one is most likely yet. Spence thinks that deserves an apology but calling a sitting President in war time an idiot and Kerry accusing our Troops of Terrorizing women and children doesn't. This is way beyond double standards. This is downright hypocrisy.

Actually they are Vets returning from Iraq after their service was complete or their injuries prevented their return. A woman running for the US House in IL lost both her legs in Iraq.

Why do you hate Democratic Veterans so much? Can't you just say I'm sorry?

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

So you're saying they're running from Iraq to take the easy road in a life of politics.

I think you owe the brave fighting men and women of the US Armed Forces an appology.

-spence

I think thats what you wish I said.

[spence]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I think thats what you wish I said.

Are you saying you "botched" the statement? I find that hard to believe.

There are a lot of US Vets running for office who demand your appology.

-spence

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by spence

Are you saying you "botched" the statement? I find that hard to believe.

There are a lot of US Vets running for office who demand your appology.

-spence

If i were you, i'd shut up and quit taking your lame shots at myself and others. You know know damn well were i stand regarding our troops. You just think your so funny playing your little games, trying to make it sound like we dont care and respect our soldiers.

When you and your liberal friends are the first ones to accuse and %$%$%$%$ all over our troops for political gain. Just look at the crazy statements made by the party YOU support.

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Are you saying you "botched" the statement? I find that hard to believe.

There are a lot of US Vets running for office who demand your appology.

-spence

You speak for veterans?