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10-18-2006, 09:51 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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What it will end up being is 18 year old clerk in 7-11 asking for ID's from people. They wont know if thier fake ID's, they'll sell to thier friends more often. We do not need anyomre retail sales outlets for alcohol, oh ya, and if you think that in a few years all of these new wine outlets wont be applying for beer sales also your crazy. And then all alcohol.............yada yada yada.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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10-18-2006, 10:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 166
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Against it.. NO all the way  . But, I am confuse  The hanaford Market in quincy sells Wine, Beer, Wine Coolers and Champaign already. What makes this new law any different?
I hate seeing these over grown store taking advantage of the neighborhood Mom and Pop store just because they can. 
I agree with everyone, they should not make it easier to get liquors...especially when it is mostly teenagers working at these markets.
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10-18-2006, 10:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,412
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Lets assume that the wine is purchased at a seperate register by an adult who is certified. Note: there are citys & towns that require employees that handle liquor including the waiters/waitresses to get certified.
If this was your primary concern and given the above assumption then would you vote yes.
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10-18-2006, 10:59 AM
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Got Necco's?
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Franklin
Posts: 1,339
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Vote no, don't give kids any additional outlets to purchase alcohol than they already have. I look at it as buying from a small tackle shop as opposed to #^^^^&s/bass pro. You pay for the knowledge at a smaller place as opposed to a supermarket where they have no idea what they are talking about. NO all the way!
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HAMMER TIME!
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10-18-2006, 11:07 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,550
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Doesn't the rest of the country sell beer/wine in grocery stores?
As long as there are older brothers and sisters in this world, kids will get their beer/wine/booze, be it Packy's or Stop and Shop.
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10-18-2006, 11:10 AM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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I am voting no. It is funny stopping at the Super WalMart in Paris, ME and getting my beer, food, hunting license and my 30/06 shells on the same checkout counter tho.
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10-18-2006, 11:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 62
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I have no stake in this but do know a little bit about the industry. I like the idea but am not willing to take all the potential issues just for a little convenience. The cost of wine/beer would not be significantly altered as the distributors would still control the cost of the product. The profits would just go to the big box store and eventually lead to a shrinking of the competitive marketplace. In addition the law will allow companies to own more than 3 stores selling wine but still keep the restriction in place for liquor stores. Grocery stores can sell beer/wine now but have to limit it to only 3 stores in the state. This is the real crux of the bill.
Would it really be that much more convenient? As it is the number of cashiers at a supermarket (or HDepot etc.) have been reduced, giving rise to the self-checkout (what an f-ing joke that is!). You would still need to go to an area set aside for liquor, and then wait for a cashier to pay. I go to my local liquor store and am in and out in a few minutes. It also mirrors fishing shops, I go to the local shop because of the service and knowledge. I go to #^^^^&s/etc in the off chance they have something I can't get elsewhere but know not to ask for advice. I don't think I will find anyone at the grocery store to explain the difference between Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio.
I don't think the tact of saying these stores will not have intelligent enough cashiers works. While there is some validity to it, if a grocery store is shutdown for a day or more due to underage selling it will hit them more than a liquor store. It would be more prudent for them to train their people as they have more to lose.
I don't believe that it will lead to a higher incident of drunkenness (liquor stores sell kegs) or drunk driving. It is a bit disingenuous given the number of establishments that sell alcohol now. Growing up in Arlington (a dry town) there was a liquor store over the line for 3 of the 4 bordering towns. People still got caught drinking and driving.
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10-18-2006, 12:04 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
Posts: 4,860
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we have enough liquor stores and tourists here on the cape..we don't need anymore of either.
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BOAT fish do count.
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10-18-2006, 12:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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Falmouth and Mashpee have loads of convience stores that sell booze (beer and wine) already. Is this so "super stores"ike Shaws and Stop and Shop can too? In Avon at BJ's you can buy liquor so I am confused.
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Why even try.........
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