Shirts - Will You Buy Me?

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by JohnR

And that is the whole thing. One simply cannot please ALL groups on this site. I figured that if I went with something above and beyond the norm that it would overcome this. I figured if S-B had a shirt that was different then just slapping a logo and a phrase - which everyone else does - would be more universaly accepted - apparently I was wrong.

At this point I'm ready to %$%$%$%$ can the whole shirt thing. I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.

As for the sponsors helping by sending some dough to help produce this shirt - is that the problem? It makes it too "Commercialized"?

John, who would object to a simple White T shirt with the official SB logo on the back?? Thats all i'm saying, you can't go wrong with that design. Its simple and straight to the point. Simple is always better, alot of people dont like flashy stuff.

[Raider Ronnie]

I have a few TheHullTruth tshirts,
They make it very clear of what the hull truth is even for someone who never heard of that site.
It comes down to this,
Are we doing a shirt desigh for the site or plug building ???
If you (John) are doing a shirt for plug building it's awesome, and I don't want to make you think all the time & work you put into it is not appreciated,
But I thought this was a FISHING site !!!
Not one that caters to only 1 portion of it's members !

[GBOUTDOORS]

The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question. I think Johns idea is to have a shirt that will sell to the LARGEST number here or am I missing something here? If the shirt is not to help bring money to the site then yes any design would be fine. But if it is to bring $$$$$$$ to the site then you would want a shirt that would give you the best sales to the MOST number of members. To that end John I would be willing to donate up to $500.00 for the print work of a SB.com logo shirt that sells SB.com only and I will not ask to have my name put on it just want the first shirt.

[JohnR]

Damn - who knew this would hit 3 pages faster than an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& thread ?

The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question.

OK moneybags - Maybe I'm just beating myself over the head a little with the whole shirt thing. And no, I would not have you do that

If this were the plugs, and not "sponsored by" yadayadayada , with the Normal S-B logo over the front pocket, would that seem "less commercial" ?

As for this appearing just for the plugs, we have ALL different kinds of anglers here and one of the most consistant threads in our community is the custom plugs beacuse a lot of people fish them - not talking about building - but fish them, from surf, canal, boat, yak.

[redcrbbr]

Originally Posted by JohnR

If this were the plugs, and not "sponsored by" yadayadayada , with the Normal S-B logo over the front pocket, would that seem "less commercial" ?

sounds like the plan to me

[nightfighter]

I suggest that JohnR set up a PM address, like the one for YASBR, for indications of interest/orders for sizes and numbers. Only those with interest in purchase need reply, and JR will have an idea of initial orders.....

[RIJIMMY]

Its funny when you're asked for your opinion and when you give it you get grief. I think all of the posts have been well thought out and not just griping.
If the purpose is a plug fest shirt, awesome deisgn, if it was meant as s-b.com shirt, it seems a little too much and does not appeal to a lot of people.
I'd rather have shirt with a big eel on it....

[Skip N]

The shirts will sell regardless of what design John desides to go with. John asked for some feedback/opinions and people have spoken up and have been honest. Now the people who disagree and dont think the design represents SB.com as a whole are being called whiners and babies, grow up people, you're the ones sounding like whining babies now! John wanted our feedback and thats what he's getting. maybe he should have asked for our feeback BEFORE he designed the shirt?

[Clammer]

R/R

What could be worse than Clammer ,s Ass ><><


EASY

a poor F #$%^&*( RAIDER ] fan

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Skip N

John wanted our feedback and thats what he's getting. maybe he should have asked for our feeback BEFORE he designed the shirt?

I have done that in the past and gotten similar and varied responses. Which is part of why I wanted something different to break past that - guess I was a little less than accurate....

[Swimmer]

I like the shirt. And you know we all fish with these plugs. I fly fish also, but I still love plugging and these plugs all fish well. The guys who make them support this site. Start with this design first and then go from there.

[JohnR]

Oh, and I want to be crystal clear about the sponsors logos listing on the back of the shirt. This was never a shirt to showcase the SPONSORS. The whole part of the sponsors was they were helping with the production costs of the shirt keeping the costs lower to you all, and they were enthusiastic about that. They were originally going to have their logos on a sleve.

So regardless of what happens, don't take a bad eye on those sponsors as they were trying to help me provide the shirts cheaper for you, that's all.

(We'll figure something out )

Thanks!

John

[tattoobob]

I call it constructive criticism, Thanks for everything you do John

is this kiss butt enough

[Swimmer]

JR can you squeeze my name on there, not for any particular reason I just want my name on the shirt too. After all you know how famous I am. Thank you John Pollack!

[BigFish]

"You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can't please all of the people all of the time"!

[ThrowingTimber]

John,

Please understand that I am in no way attempting to take away from what you've done. It can be tweaked though and I'm willing to help.

Very simple design:

Front of shirt says: "Support your Local Hookers" small print bold/font

Back of shirt has the sb logo same as the automobile stickers. Humor and you deliver your message in one color ink.

Or you could do a picture of a guy hooked up to a fish on the back.

The design shown:

John the design you show looks very busy and Im getting the idea that the main focus are three dif. things but they realy dont all play well together. 1. the sb logo. 2. the lures, looks great! but as was mentioned maybe a bit much I mean I love it, but not tied together with 1 & 3. Section three looks like it was tacked on as after thought. Again Im not attacking your work just giving my opinion. If anything I'm willing to help you work on this

Suggestions for the current design would be to increase the font size of the logo name on the back, and remove the sponsor names from the back of the shirt. This makes section 1 and 2 place a little nicer together.

Take the sponsors names, every sponsor: Have them run listed horizontally but in clear text on the sleeves of the T's.

Or have the art work on the front of the shirt, and the sb logo, same as the stickers on the back of the shirt with a listing of the sponsors on the back of the shirt. This would make soo much more sense with mock ups. If I have time today I'll hop on it.

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber

Very simple design:

Front of shirt says: "Support your Local Hookers" small print bold/font

Back of shirt has the sb logo same as the automobile stickers. Humor and you deliver your message in one color ink.

I second that idea.
Now that I think of it John, it's nice but it really doesn't represent the site to me.
I think u should make an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& shirt too, bet you'd sell a lot of them. Maybe like my avitar with a pic of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in the middle..Sorry Bill, couldn't resist.