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Old 08-21-2006, 05:13 PM   #1
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I'M NOT MISSING THE POINT. ITS A$$HOLES LIKE YOU THAT STAY HOME AND CRITIZE. BUT DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO GET INTO THE FIGHT!!
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:48 PM   #2
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I'M NOT MISSING THE POINT. ITS A$$HOLES LIKE YOU THAT STAY HOME AND CRITIZE. BUT DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO GET INTO THE FIGHT!!
Perhaps it's time for a Miss Manners thread

It's really sad to see you're behaving exactly like the GOP wants you to...so full of rage at your fellow Americans you're completely distracted from the policy blunders that are hurting this country.

Additionally, you're making wild character judgements based on little knowledge of the truth...this is lacking in many ways.

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Old 08-21-2006, 05:55 PM   #3
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Perhaps it's time for a Miss Manners thread

It's really sad to see you're behaving exactly like the GOP wants you to...so full of rage at your fellow Americans you're completely distracted from the policy blunders that are hurting this country.

Additionally, you're making wild character judgements based on little knowledge of the truth...this is lacking in many ways.

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The rage I witness on a daily basis is not coming from the GOP. I've come to the firm conclusion that todays Left Wing of America is the most hateful, racist faction in America and perhaps in American history. Whats that "alternate plan" again? Oh yeah its the "We HATE Bush Plan".
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:03 PM   #4
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The rage I witness on a daily basis is not coming from the GOP. I've come to the firm conclusion that todays Left Wing of America is the most hateful, racist faction in America and perhaps in American history. Whats that "alternate plan" again? Oh yeah its the "We HATE Bush Plan".
And here's where you're completely off base.

The "Left Wing" represents a fraction of America. The vast majority of anger at the President is coming from the middle and is due to POLICY rather than personality.

The entire "Hate Bush" and "alternate plan" mantras are an intellectual cop out for those to lazy or unwilling to process the facts.

You want a plan? Simple, make policy based on the world AS IT IS rather than as you would like it to be...

That's a new direction we should all be able to agree on.

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Old 08-21-2006, 06:24 PM   #5
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And here's where you're completely off base.

The "Left Wing" represents a fraction of America. The vast majority of anger at the President is coming from the middle and is due to POLICY rather than personality.

The entire "Hate Bush" and "alternate plan" mantras are an intellectual cop out for those to lazy or unwilling to process the facts.

You want a plan? Simple, make policy based on the world AS IT IS rather than as you would like it to be...

That's a new direction we should all be able to agree on.

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Oh, now I see. make policy on the world AS IT IS! So now your saying we should be facing road side bombs in this country instead of Iraq..
Thats real nice, now I KNOW YOU ARE A REALL "A$$HOLE"!!!!!!
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:32 PM   #6
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Oh, now I see. make policy on the world AS IT IS! So now your saying we should be facing road side bombs in this country instead of Iraq..
Thats real nice, now I KNOW YOU ARE A REALL "A$$HOLE"!!!!!!

Hows those metal plates in your head holding up

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Old 08-21-2006, 06:31 PM   #7
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And here's where you're completely off base.

The "Left Wing" represents a fraction of America. The vast majority of anger at the President is coming from the middle and is due to POLICY rather than personality.

The entire "Hate Bush" and "alternate plan" mantras are an intellectual cop out for those to lazy or unwilling to process the facts.

You want a plan? Simple, make policy based on the world AS IT IS rather than as you would like it to be...

That's a new direction we should all be able to agree on.

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Yeah thats a plan. Wouldn't have done much to eliminate Nazism, Slavery or thousands of other issues that could have been accepted and planned around, but its a plan. (I guess). Intellectual Cop Out? Sounds like Triple inverted doublespeak to discredit the opinion of anyone who disagrees with you. And no I'm not lazy, or unwilling to process facts nor are the vast majority of those who don't agree with your point of view or accept your version of fact. I still very much support a plan that kills sworn enemies of America before they kill us. And yes we are fighting Terrorists in Iraq like it or not. Maybe they weren't there before but they are now and thats the world today AS IT IS.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:58 PM   #8
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Yeah thats a plan. Wouldn't have done much to eliminate Nazism, Slavery or thousands of other issues that could have been accepted and planned around, but its a plan.
Hogwash, I'm not advocating inaction...I'm advocating objective thought!

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Old 08-21-2006, 07:14 PM   #9
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Hogwash, I'm not advocating inaction...I'm advocating objective thought!

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Great stuff, as long as you are prepared to perform the objective thought process in conjunction with and at the same time as killing those who are planning to kill us. But if thats message the Democratic Party is trying to put forth they are failing miserably.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:07 PM   #10
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The rage I witness on a daily basis is not coming from the GOP. I've come to the firm conclusion that todays Left Wing of America is the most hateful, racist faction in America and perhaps in American history. Whats that "alternate plan" again? Oh yeah its the "We HATE Bush Plan".

Its not Bush.... he is too pathetic, weak, and moronic to hate. Its the power structure that is running the show that is deserving of stronger emotions.

Spence is right in that I cannot mention that this war in Iraq is wrong and a waste without the monkey demons flying all over screeching LEFT and RIGHT.
Division is what keeps us together whether we know it or not.

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Old 08-21-2006, 06:39 PM   #11
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Its not Bush.... he is too pathetic, weak, and moronic to hate. Its the power structure that is running the show that is deserving of stronger emotions.

Spence is right in that I cannot mention that this war in Iraq is wrong and a waste without the monkey demons flying all over screeching LEFT and RIGHT.
Division is what keeps us together whether we know it or not.
You don't have to be a Bush supporter or a Republican to realize that Terrorism is real and there are real Terrorists in Iraq and they need to die. I pretty much dont care where we choose to fight them as long as we are fighting them and its not here. If not Iraq, pick any other Muslim country and I will support that effort as well. But we are already in Iraq.
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It is a very rough world. As for myself, I think violent terrorists should be evaporated many time over.

I just don`t know how we can do it without these full scale wars but I wish there was a less destructive alternate route.

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Old 08-22-2006, 07:07 AM   #13
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It is a very rough world. As for myself, I think violent terrorists should be evaporated many time over.

I just don`t know how we can do it without these full scale wars but I wish there was a less destructive alternate route.


You are getting there Skitter....

You only have to accept one more fact and you will be free. There is NO way to "evaporate many times over" the pure evil that are terrorists via a "less destructive alternative route."

These people use whatever means they have at there disposal to inflict the most damage that they can. Car bombs...airplanes...gassing.... Whatever they can get their backwards 3rd world hands on, they will use to kill you, me and yes....even Spence.

They speak bully and bully is all they understand. I am thrilled our troops have taken the fight overseas to Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc. Every morning I wake up and tune in to the news and thank God these kids are over there doing there jobs protecting us and fighting these pieces of sh*t on their own soil.
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You don't have to be a Bush supporter or a Republican to realize that Terrorism is real and there are real Terrorists in Iraq and they need to die. I pretty much dont care where we choose to fight them as long as we are fighting them and its not here. If not Iraq, pick any other Muslim country and I will support that effort as well. But we are already in Iraq.
I think we all understand terrorism is a serious issue.

But the notion that we're fighting them over there in any meaningful form is simply not reality.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. The Administration desires it to be so they broadcast the message and you pick up on it.

Then a Dem (Murtha) comes along and offers an alternate plan, which is trounced by the GOP.

Now agree or disagree with Murtha's plan, but the fact is he observed "reality"...that we're not killing many terrorists, but mostly Iraqi nationalists and sectarian thugs.

Iraq isn't a turkey shoot for terrorists, it's a breeding ground, as in we're making more than we started with!

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