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Old 08-12-2006, 08:23 PM   #1
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That's yet another part of this equation. Osama would not show up at my house, he would send some poor,uneducated rube from the impoverished "sticks" to do his dirty work for him.
Well, on 9/11 they sent some pretty well educated "rubes" to do their dirty work.

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That seems to be the pattern with these Islamic "leaders", keep your people in the dark, tell them that it's America screwing them and that they have nothing to live for. Give them a vest bomb and send them off.
On that I'd somewhat agree.

Certainly the Islamic leadership has done a pathetic job in many countries, and combined with other exacerbating issues you have an explosive cocktail.

But remember that we're not seeing to many Islamic terrorists from Jordan, India, Turkey etc... who all have large Islamic populations...

Why is this?

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Old 08-12-2006, 09:03 PM   #2
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[QUOTE=spence]Well, on 9/11 they sent some pretty well educated "rubes" to do their dirty work.


On that I'd somewhat agree.

Certainly the Islamic leadership has done a pathetic job in many countries, and combined with other exacerbating issues you have an explosive cocktail.

But remember that we're not seeing to many Islamic terrorists from Jordan, India, Turkey etc... who all have large Islamic populations...

Why is this?


Why? Because their leaders are or have been European educated and try to rule in the European model. They do not seek absolute domination of their people. And they allow HOPE to exist. My best guess.

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Old 08-12-2006, 09:10 PM   #3
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Why? Because their leaders are or have been European educated and try to rule in the European model. They do not seek absolute domination of their people. And they allow HOPE to exist. My best guess.
Yes hope, such a powerful counter to despair...

So how can we promote hope?

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Old 08-13-2006, 05:43 AM   #4
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Old 08-13-2006, 07:26 AM   #5
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Well, on 9/11 they sent some pretty well educated "rubes" to do their dirty work.


On that I'd somewhat agree.

Certainly the Islamic leadership has done a pathetic job in many countries, and combined with other exacerbating issues you have an explosive cocktail.

But remember that we're not seeing to many Islamic terrorists from Jordan, India, Turkey etc... who all have large Islamic populations...

Why is this?


Why? Because their leaders are or have been European educated and try to rule in the European model. They do not seek absolute domination of their people. And they allow HOPE to exist. My best guess.
And on the eve of 9-11 they went out drinking and to a strip club. Is that cool according to the Quoran? I thought they were suposed to die before they had thier poontang?

Why even try.........
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Old 08-13-2006, 07:30 AM   #6
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Screw British Muslims, they get what they deserve. Anger hate and rage over British and foriegn policies. If they weren't in Britain they would be living in a mud brick hut cooking over burning goat turds and wiping thier ass with thier left hands and using that to cook with.

Muslim first British second? Then go back to Asslamabad or whever your sorry bearded robed asses come from.

Why even try.........
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ya think that maybe the good muslums could amend the koran- you know the part that states" kill all infidels where they stand"?

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People who move to other countries to live and work, and then bitch about their new homes were probably malcontents in their old homes, too. They'll never be happy anywhere. Sometimes I think that they come here to complain because we don't have militias that will shoot them on the spot.
I also am beginning to believe that our culture that is willing to punish it's own is a rare one.

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Old 08-13-2006, 09:19 AM   #9
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Muslim first British second? Then go back to Asslamabad or whever your sorry bearded robed asses come from.
You don't think there are American Jews that would think of Israel first?

Or how about social conservatives that place their religion before the US Constitution in political action?

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Screw British Muslims, they get what they deserve. Anger hate and rage over British and foriegn policies. If they weren't in Britain they would be living in a mud brick hut cooking over burning goat turds and wiping thier ass with thier left hands and using that to cook with.

Muslim first British second? Then go back to Asslamabad or whever your sorry bearded robed asses come from.

Too Funny

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Think about this:there isn't a muslim on this entire planet who can live like a non-muslim American by virtue of the fact their religion says they cannot.In those countries where islam is the law thousands of muslims are killed or maimed because they strayed in the eyes of the leadership.When god "says its ok" the boundries of the attrocities committed are limitless.

Flap's got it right.You don't like us or you don't like it here keep it in you're own damn country.

I consider myself a fairly decent human being but I'll be damned if I'm gonna let some religious nutbag dictate the way I should live through acts of terrorism.Just because I like naked women,premarital sex,beer and don't pray umpteen times a day facing Mecca don't make me a bad person!
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There is over 2 billion Muslims on earth now....maybe approaching 28 to 30% of this worlds population.

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