Wal-Mart Striper Series, Big $$$$ - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Raider Ronnie · 08-03-2006, 08:05 PM

In addition to the slot of 28 - 36 inches, 2 fish combined weight,
This is a NO bait tourny, not even a worm on a tube!
There is a 1 Single hook role also, so if you use a 9er rig, only 1 shad can have a hook !
We (Team Ave Maria) will be fishing it

Slinger · 08-04-2006, 06:54 AM

Basser and I had a long talk with thier rep at the Mass Bass Show. FLW has been running the Redfish for a long time and seems to have all the bases covered. Tubes will be provided to keep fish alive. Every way of cheating you could think of has allready been tried and they know how to deal with it. All they needed was a permit to high grade from Mass, so I guess they got it.
All the recent discussion on yo-yoing raises a question tho. Suppose your 36" ate a yo-yoed pogie and broke off? Without your knowing you could be DQed and falsely branded! What if he swallowed a 6 oz jig? It`ll show up on the x-ray.
Slinger

wheresmy50 · 08-04-2006, 07:26 AM

Seems like a lot of ridiculous rules to me. One hook? Kept alive? So if you're a surf fisherman, you're supposed to haul one bass in some half-assed life support device around with you until you catch a second?

If their premise is that these tubes keep the fish alive, why have a slot limit? For the first time ever in the striper surf, you'll hear an agler say "Damn it! another 40 pounder."

Seems like running the 100 meters and awarding a tropy to the guy who comes in 4th.

zacs · 08-04-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wheresmy50

Seems like a lot of ridiculous rules to me. One hook? Kept alive? So if you're a surf fisherman, you're supposed to haul one bass in some half-assed life support device around with you until you catch a second?

If their premise is that these tubes keep the fish alive, why have a slot limit? For the first time ever in the striper surf, you'll hear an agler say "Damn it! another 40 pounder."

Seems like running the 100 meters and awarding a tropy to the guy who comes in 4th.

Its a boat tournament. And its a pretty standard style of tournament in other species now. It keeps things way more close and exciting for the viewing audience. I don't see much wrong with it.

Zac

wheresmy50 · 08-04-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by zacs

Its a boat tournament. And its a pretty standard style of tournament in other species now. It keeps things way more close and exciting for the viewing audience. I don't see much wrong with it.

Zac

Except the guy who catches the most large fish (the historical definition of winning in fishing) doesn't win.

I have to admit, before people begin questioning my motives, that no outdoor television annoys me more than those stupid FLW redfish tournaments. That's why I hate the idea of this. Slot tournaments are silly and uninteresting, in my opinion - the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. Like giving a trophy to the fat kid cause he tried really hard.

JohnR · 08-04-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wheresmy50

Seems like a lot of ridiculous rules to me. One hook? Kept alive? So if you're a surf fisherman, you're supposed to haul one bass in some half-assed life support device around with you until you catch a second?

If their premise is that these tubes keep the fish alive, why have a slot limit? For the first time ever in the striper surf, you'll hear an agler say "Damn it! another 40 pounder."

Seems like running the 100 meters and awarding a tropy to the guy who comes in 4th.

Unfortunately it is just for boat guys - hence the big prize money - which increases if you win froma particualr brand of boat or outboard. Probably be a little embarrasing if a surf guy outfished the boat guys

But as far as (boat) tourneys go, can you think of something more C&R friendly wise in a tournament? It is an interesting concept.

Moses · 08-04-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Slinger

All they needed was a permit to high grade from Mass, so I guess they got it.
Slinger

Slinger - your reference to high grade, what exactly does that mean?

Clogston29 · 08-04-2006, 08:53 AM

Does anyone know if they are planning on tagging any of the released fish to try to come up with a mortality rate of bass kept alive in those tubes. Might be a good idea just for information purposes. I'd be curious to see the results and how they compare to mortality rate studies that have previously done for catch and release with stripers. By the way, I applaud their efforts to run a responsible tournament and this post was in no way supposed to come off as an attack (things don't always come out right when typed and I just want to be clear).

BigBo · 08-04-2006, 08:57 AM

In MA it is illegal to keep a Striped Bass alive with the intent to High Grade. ie; release the first fish in favor of a larger fish caught at a later time. High Grading or the intent to High Grade is illegal in MA.
But, I'm guessing they will give permits to allow it? I've never heard of that happening.

JohnR · 08-04-2006, 09:49 AM

My understanding is that they have achieved a waiver during the tournament for those participating...

Mike P · 08-04-2006, 10:03 AM

It's illegal to keep a bass alive in Mass, period. Keeping one on a stringer, or in a livewell, is deemed per se evidence that you're engaging in high-grading.

322 CMR 6.07(5)(e):

(e) To prohibit the practice of high-grading as defined in 322 CMR 6.07(2) recreational fishermen may not retain legal-sized striped bass and release said fish in favor of another larger legal-sized striped bass captured subsequently. Any legal-sized fish not immediately released into the water and held by stringer, live-well or another means shall be considered intent to high-grade

322 CMR 6.07(7)(g):

(7) Prohibitions. It shall be unlawful for:

(g) a recreational fisherman to "high-grade" striped bass or to keep striped bass alive in the water by attaching a line or chain to the fish or placing the fish in a live-well or holding car.

JeffH · 08-04-2006, 10:16 AM

What a great concept in which you are rewarded for being an average fisherman by the need to target slot fish. If you do manage to catch a few slot fish it's then dumb luck if you get a fat slot fish.
The one that was held in CT had a bunch of boats trolling tubes tipped with Berkley Power Sandworms, what tremendous fishing skills that requires. Many of the boatscame in with no fish. It should be a no trolling tournament.................