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Old 08-03-2006, 05:39 PM   #1
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Spence, i need your help, i am totally confused with what you want to to with these terroists. I mean obviosly we can't sit back and do nothing or we'll get wacked again, and your saying we can't go after them because it will breed more hatred in the radical muslim world. And we certainly can't talk and reason with these nut cases. So what the hell is your plan???
Another thing, I believe when the issue of weapons of mass destruction around and there was threads for it, you were the one screaming like around about weapons of mass D in Iraq. So where are they now Skippy? Now who feels like a nutcase... You get out!

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Old 08-03-2006, 06:54 PM   #2
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Another thing, I believe when the issue of weapons of mass destruction around and there was threads for it, you were the one screaming like around about weapons of mass D in Iraq. So where are they now Skippy? Now who feels like a nutcase... You get out!

I know you don't want to go down the iraq and WMD road, its a known fact that Iraq had WMD's and used them to slaughter the kurds. And its a fact that countries such as Britan, Russia and Israel to name a few, believed just like the US did, that Iraq was still producing or had plans to produce more WMD's. Oh yeah, and that pre dates George W. too. So don't go to the Bush lied card.

Please dispute these facts if you'd like, but you really cant.

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Old 08-03-2006, 07:25 PM   #3
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I know you don't want to go down the iraq and WMD road, its a known fact that Iraq had WMD's and used them to slaughter the kurds. And its a fact that countries such as Britan, Russia and Israel to name a few, believed just like the US did, that Iraq was still producing or had plans to produce more WMD's. Oh yeah, and that pre dates George W. too. So don't go to the Bush lied card.

Please dispute these facts if you'd like, but you really cant.

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This is so wrong....sorry Skip.

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Old 08-03-2006, 07:43 PM   #4
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This is so wrong....sorry Skip.
Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:05 PM   #5
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Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....
Yes, Skipper...it's true that Iraq had WMD, 15 years ago

Everything else you said is taken out of context and therefore not a fact in the context you seem to be assuming. I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

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Old 08-04-2006, 07:25 AM   #6
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I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

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This is such an elitest statement.
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Old 08-04-2006, 07:52 AM   #7
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This is such an elitest statement.
On the surface, but given that in the past year Skippy hasn't appreciated to a damn thing I've said it's more than justified.

While I may not have all the answers (yet ), I'll take my version of history up against his any time, any place

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Old 08-04-2006, 10:58 AM   #8
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I could elaborate further...but you don't really seem to want to learn

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This is such an elitest statement.[/quote]


I disagree.... Skip does not respond to others comments...he just repeatedly regurgitates.

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Old 08-03-2006, 10:24 PM   #9
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Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts

I will not have a discussion of any weight with you until you study more. Now hit the books

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Old 08-03-2006, 11:20 PM   #10
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Please share with us whats wrong? everything i mentioned really can't be disputed. But please try....

The kurds were never gassed?

Those countries didnt have the same opinion on iraq and WMD's? During the Clinton years too?

Clinton and other Dems during the Clinton years weren't saying Iraq was a threat?

Please tell us YOUR version of these known facts
The Kurds if I'm mistaken are Sunni Muslims and are nomads that inhabit the northern region of Iraq and mountainous areas throughout the Middle east. Like any other nomads, I believe they were quite the nuisance to the Arab World. Who cares about them?

Clinton's interest in Iraq was to have the UN inspect Iraq for WMD. Sadamn played his little game and Clinton tossed him some air strikes until Sadamn complied. Bush on the other hand invaded Iraq and succeeded in overthrowing the tyrant. It's a bit harsh isn't it? Bush just approached the situation the 'wrong' way.

What triggered the war? I don't believe it was WMD. It was the fact that Sadamn began to sell Iraq's oil in Euros instead of Dollars. His motive was to appreciate the Euro over the Dollar. Did it suceed? The Euro is currently .34 over the dollar. Iraq continues to sell oil in the Euro today.

This is the reason we haven't left Iraq today. Bush wants Iraq to have a steady government in hopes to influence Iraq to sell oil in US Dollars again. Big picture in the long run... Is it worth it? Nope! In Economics, governement intervention (that includes war) will boost GNP in the short run. But as in consuming alcohol, the alcohol is going to catch up to you if consumed too much. What does that mean? An economical hangover!

I don't believe we should intervene in Iraq or any other nation until we sort out our economical woes. Yes we're trillions of trillions in the hole!

Enjoy Skippy!

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Old 08-03-2006, 11:34 PM   #11
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Oh and another thing, bet your bottom dollar that when the Euro eclipses the pound, England may or shall I say will join the EMU which will influence countries like Poland and Sweden to join. Once that happens, expect for a sudden lost of allies. Who will fight any war with us now?

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Ahhh yes, Iraq is all about oil
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:55 PM   #13
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Another thing, I believe when the issue of weapons of mass destruction around and there was threads for it, you were the one screaming like around about weapons of mass D in Iraq. So where are they now Skippy? Now who feels like a nutcase... You get out!

The fact is there were WMD in Iraq maybe still are. The big question as you said is "Where are they now"? And if you think anyone who believes that is a nutcase than you are refering to just about every intelligence agency, world leader, former Presidents, Presidential Candidates, Congressmen, Senators etc etc. I'm sure you can find someone who will deny they ever existed but they will also claim they were abducted by aliens.
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