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07-20-2006, 11:37 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by JoeP
No, I'm not happy. Israel is teaching us how to properly prosecute a war against a ruthless, nationless, belligerent enemy. I think we forgot how.
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You mean by killing civilians? Apparently they're doing a good job at that.
And I think we're trying to forget the times we did that.
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07-20-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid
You mean by killing civilians? Apparently they're doing a good job at that.
And I think we're trying to forget the times we did that.
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Why in the Hell are you not showing the same outrage against the groups who do by their own self admission target civilians as a routine ongoing process? You think they are aiming their rockets at Miltary targets in Israel? Dont say you are condemning Hezbollah because your one-sided posts in no way reflect that. When I say civilians I mean us. People like you, me and our families, Americans are there sworn enemies. Instead you adamantly condemn the country that is destroying the people who want us dead. And your point that Israel is targeting children is ludicrous. Maybe the safety of your family and friends are not as important to you as ours are to the rest of us. This maybe a complex overall issue but it really boils down to some simple premises. They want us dead and there is nothing you or I can do to stop them other than plain old basic self defense as in destroy those who wish us harm. Bearing guilt and self loathing aint gonna stop Terrorism (and thats what Hezbollah is Terrorists, with no quotation marks). I admit this maybe a selfish point of view but guess what, I dont care. The security of me and mine is far more important to me then the security of them and theirs.
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07-20-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
Why in the Hell are you not showing the same outrage against the groups who do by their own self admission target civilians as a routine ongoing process? You think they are aiming their rockets at Miltary targets in Israel? Dont say you are condemning Hezbollah because your one-sided posts in no way reflect that. When I say civilians I mean us. People like you, me and our families, Americans are there sworn enemies. Instead you adamantly condemn the country that is destroying the people who want us dead. And your point that Israel is targeting children is ludicrous. Maybe the safety of your family and friends are not as important to you as ours are to the rest of us. This maybe a complex overall issue but it really boils down to some simple premises. They want us dead and there is nothing you or I can do to stop them other than plain old basic self defense as in destroy those who wish us harm. Bearing guilt and self loathing aint gonna stop Terrorism (and thats what Hezbollah is Terrorists, with no quotation marks). I admit this maybe a selfish point of view but guess what, I dont care. The security of me and mine is far more important to me then the security of them and theirs.
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Well said, Likwid will never understand this however, for some reason he can't see the difference in Hezbalah targeting civilians only, and Isreal going after armed, murderious terroists. I dont get his thinking  And yes, his recent posts suggest that he has some sympathy for Hezbalah and lots of rage towards Isreal. Maybe i'm wrong but thats what i'm seeing 
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07-20-2006, 12:34 PM
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Spence,
We just see things alot differently  - lets leave it at that & stick to fishing. I'm not going to debate this stuff here.
And Likwid, I've read some of your posts and I'm not even going to try.
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07-20-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeP
Spence,
We just see things alot differently  - lets leave it at that & stick to fishing. I'm not going to debate this stuff here.
And Likwid, I've read some of your posts and I'm not even going to try.
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Likwid might be one of the 5% of Americans from the latest CNN poll that supports Hezbalah. How can 5% of Americans support a terroist group!?
I hope i'm wrong likwid, but i can only judge you by your posts, and your post seem to lean towards you having some strange sympathy for Hezbalah. Please tell me im wrong though.
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07-20-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by likwid
You mean by killing civilians? Apparently they're doing a good job at that.
And I think we're trying to forget the times we did that.
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Where is your outrage at hezbalah for only targeting civilians? Thats all they go after, they dont go after anything of strategic military importance. All they do is attempt to murder innocent Isrealis. Isreals actions have sadly caused civilian deaths, but they are not the targets they are after. Isreal is going after Hezbalah, not civilians.
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07-20-2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Where is your outrage at hezbalah for only targeting civilians? Thats all they go after, they dont go after anything of strategic military importance. All they do is attempt to murder innocent Isrealis. Isreals actions have sadly caused civilian deaths, but they are not the targets they are after. Isreal is going after Hezbalah, not civilians.
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Skip...this above statement does`nt make any sense. You are saying Hezbollah never has military targets? Were the soldiers killed and kidnapped going to a costume ball  ? How old are you Skip... if I may ask?
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07-20-2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Skitterpop
Skip...this above statement does`nt make any sense. You are saying Hezbollah never has military targets? Were the soldiers killed and kidnapped going to a costume ball  ? How old are you Skip... if I may ask?
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Hezbalah is a terroist organization that goes after mostly civilians, and yes, they will gladly go after all Isreali military forces if givin the chance. But most, if not all of thier targets the last week have been civilians only. Am i wrong? I think not.
They are firing random missles and they could care less where they hit. Children, Military, they dont care, as long as a dead Israeli is on the other side end of the explosion. Thats all they care about. And you know this is true.
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07-20-2006, 01:19 PM
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[quote=Skip N] But most, if not all of thier targets the last week have been civilians only. Am i wrong?
Answer: Yes you are very very wrong.
I think not. <<<< and this is why....study, LISTEN, and read.
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