Design Flaw???

[Saltheart]

They should have used Elmers glue !

Its a shame when something that big and expensive isn't done well enough to last 100 years.We sound like the USSR during one of their 10 year plans. Sure they built the buildings but they started falling apart right away. we laughed at them. I'm sure the world is laughing at us now.

[tattoobob]

When the company showed up to install the ceiling fasteners they were told it was a job for the steel workes, they had no idea how this system worked and in drilling the holes for the fasteners they hit all kinds of rebar and cut the bolts short and epoxied them in. this is not how the system was designed to work. to hold a 3 ton slab of concrete you need a certain lenth bolt with the correct mix of epoxy. it all came down to the steel workers union saying it was there work and that no nonunion labor was to be used on that work site. the person who made that change should be hung

[BigFish]

Thats the best explanation I have heard to this point and it sounds about right!

[Tagger]

Controls.. there has to be Controls.. Having worked on building going up in that town, I've seen a clerk take samples from every concrete truck and pour them in a pipe and number them , and do slump test also . Then they lock all the pipe samples up in a gang box. Alot of times problems are created.. Heard egg heads changed bolt layout (placement).. Guess what ,there's re bar in that concrete every wich way and figured ahead of time for hangers . Its all speculation and finger pointing until the truth comes out . I do rehab now and wish I had a nickel for everytime I heard "Make it work".. No problem since my work is mainly cosmetic and ain't going to kill someone. The blame game..This "make it work mentality" has to go . "Make it work" is a good way to duck decision making responsibilty that may come back on you later. I know the game .. Not saying this happened there , I wasn't involved . Just seems to be the trend in construction . How about the hell with profit margine,, the hell with dead lines ."This has to be done right " Plus major construction company involved has a history of grossly underbidding work . What pressure do you think that creates .