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06-16-2006, 02:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Sounds like a nice deal.Sell as many tickets as u can an then close the beach because of 2 friggen salt sparrow nest's.What a joke..Anton is right. they should just hire someone to work the bird area..With a fenced off cage like area.if they cared so much about them.They would just move em hell without a cage the foxes wil get em anyways.If it was my area I would be pissed.& miles of beach closed the 4 of july weekend cause of 2 friggin nests.Wow.
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06-16-2006, 02:32 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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''The piping plover is telling us something. Either we're mismanaging the beach, there are too many people (using it), or there is something else (at work),'' he said.
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Wouldn't the something else at work be coyotes, skunks, foxes, weather, and other predrators? Did any drwon in the 39 days of rain 
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06-16-2006, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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What a dilema for the Audubon guy, if a Black Gull ate the plover...
anyway..he is jockeying to take over the bird management... God Forbid...
to Clarify this situation a bit..
Nauset is NOT closed YET.
As soon as the birds hatch, projected time to be as early as the 21st, as late as the 29th, THEN, is when it will be closed for 28-35 days, whenever they fledge.
Updates are posted on the Town of Orleans Website.
The resident side is open for about 100 yards, 40-50 vehicles according to the town website.. forget that  !
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06-17-2006, 01:38 PM
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backbeach
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SE-MA
Posts: 60
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John R, I couldn't agree more... But u notice how Audabon immediately points at people using the beach...because they want us off so they can manage it as a monopoly. They want the concession of the guided tours for their own ends. Who knows what else is out on Nauset, feral cats kill alot of birds. How many get dumped after the summer and go wild... Besides, what is the historical number of plovers? Gull numbers are way out of whack, historically speaking; and they eat plover chicks too...
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06-17-2006, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Just picked up a few of these bumber stickers on Ebay. Perhaps I will slap them on an unsuspecting patrol vehicle.
No, honestly there a LOT of predators and the guys watching the nests KNOW for a fact that it is not vehicles causing the probems. The frigging crows sit on the cage and wait until the little guy makes it out. If the crows don't get them the skunks hawks coons and others will. The issue with the trucks is that the little chicks like to hang out in the tracks of the trucks and they have good camo. It is easy to run over the little buggers. My point has been to MOVE THE BIRDS TO MONOMOY OR NOMANS OR MUSKEGET OR some other bird reserve island that does not have many of these predators. I think in the long run this is their only shot. Shutting down the entire beach for a bird is absurd IMO.
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06-17-2006, 07:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 210
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a guy at a local tackle shop explained it to me this way : we are at the northern most point of the birds' travels, yet we suffer the extreme consequences. the long island area is/was a hot bed for the bird, but now they are all but extinct there. so up here, we get clobbered on these regs.
i say, this is just the way they(the environmentalist wackos)want it. they don't want us on the beach  lain and simple. and they will stop at nothing to get us off.
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