A Day Without Immigrants! - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

stripersnipr · 05-02-2006, 04:03 PM

I support amnesty for all speeders, after all they are just in a hurry trying to make a better life for themselves and thier families.

Jimbo · 05-02-2006, 04:13 PM

Not for illegal immigrants, but immigrants, did a Snopes check and found this to be true. Sound words from Teddy:
Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American ... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag ... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language ... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907

The Dad Fisherman · 05-03-2006, 07:49 AM

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Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

I agree with pretty much everything said....but this one is up for interpretation.

This would put a pretty big dent in clubs like the Franco-American, The Loyal order of Hibernians, PLAV and other clubs that celebrate being American AND there own heritage.

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We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language

I agree with this to some extent but I find it kind of unreasonable for us to expect someone who just got here to instantly speak English. English is not an easy language to learn if you've never spoken it before.

I've heard people say that they go into 7-11's and Dunkin Donuts and are upset because the person behind the counter can't speak english (which isn't 100% accurate, they speak very little English)....do any of you know when this person arrived here? Could have been last month, yet you expect them to lose there accent and speak fluent english by now. It takes years to learn the language and that is with proper training.....which I doubt they can afford on a Dunkin Donuts salary. They are probably trying hard to understand the language and learn it...but they aren't going to get much help from someone who is all pissed off because he had to repeat his order a second time....because the person behind the counter can make sure they are understanding it right.

I'll tell you right now, they may not speak very good english.....But I definitely don't get the attitude from them that I get from some White Anglo-Saxon pimply faced kid that speaks perfect english and is a citizen.

Well I'm off my Soap-Box now...

Skip N · 05-03-2006, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I support amnesty for all speeders, after all they are just in a hurry trying to make a better life for themselves and thier families.

yea my $80 ticket should be revoked, we let illegals break the law so why cant I? Why am i, as a LEGAL citizen getting punished, and Paco who hopped the fence gets welcomed with open arms and then gets free %$%$%$%$ that i as a LEGAL have to pay for? WTF?!

Why even have imigration laws if we dont enforce them? Why go through the entire legal process if it really meens nothing? When we are rewarding people for cutting in line, why even have a process at all? Just open the borders and let all of mexico in.

The more i think about it the more pissed i get...

spence · 05-03-2006, 07:19 AM

Speeding isn't really enforced all that much when you think about it. How many times do you drive down the road and see other speeders and you Skip... just look the other way

-spence

Navy Chief · 05-03-2006, 07:42 AM

You have some serious ideas for deployment of our military forces. So I would like to quote my favorite movie Colonel.

"I have neither the time nor inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post."

Go ahead and join up, then you can be part of the solution. Then you can make a difference.

The Dad Fisherman · 05-03-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Navy Chief

You have some serious ideas for deployment of our military forces. So I would like to quote my favorite movie Colonel.

"I have neither the time nor inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post."

Nicely Said...

ScottC · 05-03-2006, 08:18 AM

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Nicely Said...

Yeah it was wasn't it. So you served right?

The Dad Fisherman · 05-03-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottC

Yeah it was wasn't it. So you served right?

7 Years in the USN....

ScottC · 05-03-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Navy Chief

You have some serious ideas for deployment of our military forces. So I would like to quote my favorite movie Colonel.

"I have neither the time nor inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post."

Go ahead and join up, then you can be part of the solution. Then you can make a difference.

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SEMPER FI

I will accept your appology gracfully
I blew L4 out during boot in 1992. Everyday I wake up with pain you can only imagine sir. This picture is right after the my first surgery, only later to be followed my 2 more.

I don't brag about anything , nor do I feel I have to name myself anything in the internet to gain respect. I joined to go directly the the gulf, and not to sit on a boat.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Now what were you saying?

Navy Chief · 05-03-2006, 08:28 AM

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SEMPER FI

I will accept your appology gracfully
I blew L4 out during boot in 1992. Everyday I wake up with pain you can only imagine sir. This picture is right after the my first surgery, only later to be followed my 2 more.

I don't brag about anything , nor do I feel I have to name myself anything in the internet to gain respect. I joined to go directly the the gulf, and not to sit on a boat.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Now what were you saying?

Okay, i apologize. Thanks for trying.

I didn't name myself Navy Chief to gain respect. I named myself that because that is what I am.

I did alot more than sit on a boat during IF1.

ScottC · 05-03-2006, 08:40 AM

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Okay, i apologize. Thanks for trying.

I didn't name myself Navy Chief to gain respect. I named myself that because that is what I am.

I did alot more than sit on a boat during IF1.

Thanks, it really meant a lot to me to be a Marine, My grandfather fought at Guadalcanal and brought home 2 purple hearts, my uncle fought in vietnam.

There is not a day that goes by that I don't wish I could have served my tour, but when I came home, my grandfather was proud that I tried, and on his deathbed he handed me one of his purple hearts.

I love my country, and I would kill and die for it, anything I would suggest out military to do, I would gladly lead the assault.