Immigration and Illegal aliens

[Raider Ronnie]

I have no problem with people coming to this country to make a better life for themselves!
As long as they do it LEGAL !!!
But I know for a fact that a LOT of these people from south of the border have NO intention of staying here and giving back to this country!
They are here to either work around the clock and send every penny back home or to steal enything they can !
Then in 3 to 4 years they go back home and they tell me they can live like kings!
I have a BIG problem with them driving cars with no lics, ins, or registration and they are crashing into honest (legal), paying through the nose people !
I can only imagine what would happen if one of these people were to crash into Bigfish's new truck !!!
new truck

[Vectorfisher]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I have no problem with people coming to this country to make a better life for themselves!
As long as they do it LEGAL !!!
But I know for a fact that a LOT of these people from south of the border have NO intention of staying here and giving back to this country!
They are here to either work around the clock and send every penny back home or to steal enything they can !
Then in 3 to 4 years they go back home and they tell me they can live like kings!
I have a BIG problem with them driving cars with no lics, ins, or registration and they are crashing into honest (legal), paying through the nose people !
I can only imagine what would happen if one of these people were to crash into Bigfish's new truck !!!
new truck

So true!! I have been working on a very expensive house on the south shore and the contractor has 4 Brazilian guys working for him so we get to talking and they all have children that live with the grandparents and the husbands and wives all work practically around the clock here, they live in an apartment together (all 8 of them) and they are only here to send the money home. Then today I pull up to a brand new house and must be 12 guys working for a roofing company like bee's all over and only one of them understood english, they were done with the roof by 4p.m on a 3000sq/ft house I will bet my life savings that the only guy making any money was the foreman the rest made POOH and I will also bet 11 of them were being paid cash w/o any benefits or anything else, this goes on a lot more than most think and guys like me have to bid against guys like this roofer

[Joe]

Are you a republican? If you are, you should think about the issue in practical terms of power and forwarding conservative ideology. The language issue and the drain on social services component is not much of a consideration in terms of holding the majority and keeping red states red.

If you're a conservative you should be firmly sided with the Latino population on this point. If the republicans lose the inroads they've made with Latino voters - they're screwed. Lose Congress in the midterms (that looks like a certainty) and lose the White House in 2008 and the only person left espousing hard right ideology will be Rush and Bill O'Reilly.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Joe

Lose Congress in the midterms (that looks like a certainty) and lose the White House in 2008 and the only person left espousing hard right ideology will be Rush and Bill O'Reilly.

one can only hope

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Nebe

one can only hope

If you think there will be an improvement your dreaming. Same old same old but with higher taxes, more handout social programs (illegal alien bait).

[Flaptail]

Problem is that the really qualified people who should run for President won't because, a. not enough money personally,b. did something in thier past they are not proud of but it was done in a time of the foolishness of youth (ie: smoke pot), c. wouldn't put thier families through something like a campaign and the negative ads d. are Independents or like myself, non-attached to any party, in this country your chances of getting elected if not a democrat or (God forbid) a conservative republican are almost nil. e. your a not a regular church goer and don't believe you need a middle man to talk to God. f. your a black women or black man or Jewish or both and the first one who is elected ( and someday hopefully they will) will be a target for some redneck or neo-nazi with an itchy trigger finger who is "fighting for his race" whatever that means. g. your educational background is lacking a degree but your common sense and natural degree of inteligence to see right from wrong and judge it so still won't overcome the stigma.

That's all.

[Joe]

Bush has one DUI and a ten-year lapse in his resume where he was essentially drunk. His most memorable academic achievement was being able to rattle off all his frat brothers regardless of how much he drank. Cheney's got 2 DUI's and has publicly admitted to having "other priorities" instead of military service.

But yet they are viewed as virtuous and have been credited with restoring honor to the Oval Office. Why? Because there has been no Monica scandal? What the f_ck did that matter? If you fired everybody who ever got a bj from a fat chick at work nobody would have a job.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Joe

Are you a republican? If you are, you should think about the issue in practical terms of power and forwarding conservative ideology. The language issue and the drain on social services component is not much of a consideration in terms of holding the majority and keeping red states red.

If you're a conservative you should be firmly sided with the Latino population on this point. If the republicans lose the inroads they've made with Latino voters - they're screwed. Lose Congress in the midterms (that looks like a certainty) and lose the White House in 2008 and the only person left espousing hard right ideology will be Rush and Bill O'Reilly.

Unlike you, i don't sell my soul to a political party. Yes i hold conservative views, but i don't support bending over and doing whatever it takes to win and get votes for the republican party. Especially if it meens going against what you believe. I put the country first and always will. If doing what's right means losing votes and support, then so be it. Sometimes the right thing is not always the popular thing.