Well? Where Is All The RISSA Show Chatter?

[Sea Dangles]

So what do you say to HAB-A-TAT when they make mureels?Gibbs was making needles before these guys even fished.Buy the best,buy Habs.But as far as blatantly copying plugs,I doubt any maker has been copied in one way or another than Gibbs.Of course it's not Stan but a company that bears his name.IMO the only Gibbs worth buying is the polaris.

[luds]

I noticed the new needle had a spro swivel. I wonder if it will when it's finally available. That would be weird if they put theat plug out with good hardware and continue to put everything else out with sh*t hardware.

[likwid]

J-Habs, Don, Al, Norby, John, Pete & crew etc.

[Clogston29]

I noticed the gibbs needle too. They definately weren't too creative on the look of the needle but they guy I talked to said that it would be a floater, so at least that part is different. The thing that I though was kind of weird is that they're calling it "The Original Gibb's Needle" or something along those lines. I've never seen an early gibb's needle that looked like that.

[Mike P]

The original Gibbs needle was like an ounce, maybe 3/4 oz, and it had screw eyes. I have a couple, still.

Dennis is Dennis Ryan, and Smalley is Dan Smalley.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The original Gibbs needle was like an ounce, maybe 3/4 oz, and it had screw eyes. I have a couple, still.

And as long as you don't have the audacity to fish a darter in April

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The original Gibbs needle was like an ounce, maybe 3/4 oz, and it had screw eyes. I have a couple, still.

Dennis is Dennis Ryan, and Smalley is Dan Smalley.

I have a few also.
I guess i spoke to Dan then.

[Flaptail]

Larry, you missed the candy vendor, overpriced plugs, some guy ripping off Beachmaster plugs saying they were as good as, some other guy selling cutom baits for 30.00 each that after inspection didn't pass muster by me. Bobby from Beachmaster was there and we had a long talk about the correct way to fish plugs. Saw Nib. The knife guy was great bought a new 7 inch filet knife and a couple new stones. Other than that, no real bargains. Gibbs gave me a rare tiger red over yellow danny, scored an old GooGoo eyes swimmer for a buck, Nice Tattoo hat and the NJ Tackle guys are always great to yak with. Habs was there, and the best was the chinese guys selling the offshore squids and tuna stuff, left some bucks there. If the guy wanting to clean my glasses asked me one more time, he would have needed some himself when he got out of the hospital.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So what do you say to HAB-A-TAT when they make mureels?Gibbs was making needles before these guys even fished.Buy the best,buy Habs.But as far as blatantly copying plugs,I doubt any maker has been copied in one way or another than Gibbs.Of course it's not Stan but a company that bears his name.IMO the only Gibbs worth buying is the polaris.

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Yes everything has been done before.We all know that.Stan didn't invent the needle fish either.
No one on the next aisle over is sellin mureels.They also made sure the due respect was payed.Thats the difference.Its apples an oranges.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by NIB

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Yes everything has been done before.We all know that.Stan didn't invent the needle fish either.
No one on the next aisle over is sellin mureels.They also made sure the due respect was payed.Thats the difference.Its apples an oranges.

Imitation is another word for respect.If you knew what I know then you would understand imitation is overblown.It has happened before and it might happen again.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Imitation is another word for respect.If you knew what I know then you would understand imitation is overblown.It has happened before and it might happen again.

Well being As I am Not Kreskin an last time I tried I couldn't read into what someone else is thinking.Especially on the INTERNET. I can only go on what I SEE. It was plain to the eye a outright copy.To the point I could have taking a HABS out of the package an switched em on the table an the display guy would not have known the difference.I have no idea what u are talking about.It seems u have some hidden agenda.Good for U.U seem to agree an then disagree with my replies.Kinda like arguing with a woman. I really have no need to get involved in all the plug building BS that goes on up there.I get enough of it here in NJ.I am a Plug freak. I have many from all the builders.I even got some Salty's this yr.Imagine that.He tells me I may have a few more.Which is frightening really

[UserRemoved1]

I guarantee you Nib spent an hour that night closely inspecting every plug in his bag to figure out which one's he had

What's this plug war crap in the projo outdoor column? WTF is up with this drivel.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

What's this plug war crap in the projo outdoor column? WTF is up with this drivel.

Blaming it on the internet isn't the entire story. Sure the internet helps it expand and can accelerate it but my feelings are that back in the old days when builders shared like we do in the plug forum, they did it because there were not many wooden salt water plugs out there. And they got along and helped the sport by providing quality plugs as an alternative to fishing bait. So the 3 or 4 guys doing it got along famously.
Go forward in time in this fast paced world we live in today and there's pressure to make a living so when money gets involved and competition causes animosity between some because of lying or whatever, then things get out of hand. Word travels quickly in the fishing community and rumors start up and accusations spread. Secondhand info gets pasted on the forums and it makes everyone look bad. If ya keep ya nose clean and have integrity then ya don't have to worry about all the backstabbing and two faced crap that goes on. It sounds like baby chit to me, that's why I will not go into the plug business. Someone once asked me if that kind of crap happens in my business and I really didn't know or think about it, but I guess it can happen. I just try to make a living, if another place cuts my price and gets a job then so be it, I am not a great salesman, I let the quality of my work speak for itself but these days you need more than that because most people just see dollar signs, not many are concerned with quality or know enough to care.
I wonder if the guy who wrote that article really thought that blurb in the paper would help sell newspapers I wonder why he thought it was neccesary to include it. I guess he reads the forums too.
So let's not start debating the plug wars here at S-B, we'll leave that to the other sites

NIB, that's not what you told me. You said you COULD read others' minds on the internet.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

NIB, that's not what you told me. You said you COULD read others' minds on the internet.

Some nuts are tougher to crack than others.

[Diamond Tackle]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

If ya keep ya nose clean and have integrity then ya don't have to worry about all the backstabbing and two faced crap that goes on.

Slip,
You said a mouthful. Dead nuts on accurate 100%.
In my short 45 yrs I’ve personally witnessed multi million dollar Real Estate deals on a handshake by the old school guys, one of them was the Ceo at a fortune 500 co, I will never forget those people and what they thought me. Many years ago I read a great book “What they don’t teach you at Harvard Business school” , I must read that book 10x .
But today it’s a dog eat dog world, seems you cant do business with many people on a handshake anymore without a written contract. Maybe Lawyers have screwed up society forever, I don’t know but its very sad. But what goes around comes around, that will always hold true.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I guarantee you Nib spent an hour that night closely inspecting every plug in his bag to figure out which one's he had

What's this plug war crap in the projo outdoor column? WTF is up with this drivel.

Link? I tried to get it but didn't feel like loggin on to another site.......

[Sea Dangles]

No hidden agenda NIB.I didn't even notice the needle,I agree moustache makes the best and that's why it's obviously been selected to be copied.If only agreeing with half of your opinion makes me a woman,allow me to bend over.Just bring lube.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by NIB

Link? I tried to get it but didn't feel like loggin on to another site.......

I took a quick look - is there a Plug War? No, low level conflict perhaps? Maybe. I also wonder how much out of context some of the "quotes" were...

Why can't we all just get along