Strper Cup ? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Flaptail · 03-28-2006, 10:49 AM

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

Mike P · 03-28-2006, 11:28 AM

I think I'm going to enter. I like the fact that they're trying to restore the spirit of the old Schaefer tournament. As an individual (and I'll wait to see whether they'd allow s-b.com to qualify as a club before I send off my check) I wouldn't be entering 34" fish. My goal would be to have a pin, even a 30 pin.

It's the first year. Bound to be some growing pains, and participant feedback might allow OTW to fine tune the rules. I don't love the 9/17 end either, but lets face it, everyone has a shot at big fish in June. Plus, the 9/17 cut off really hurts New Yorkers more than it hurts guys in New England. Lots of years the fall run in NY hasn't even started then. As far as not wanting to compete with MV, assuming there's a weigh station on-Island, I don't see why a fish couldn't be entered in both. Weigh it at Coops, #^&#^&#^&#^&s, Larry's etc first if the Derby's cutting a fin would disqualify a fish. But, I'm willing to live with 9/17. You have to realize that tournaments like this rely heavily on the major sponsors, like Harpoon. If Harpoon wants the awards ceremony to coincide with their promotional interests, like an Octoberfest sort of celebration, you have to let them have it if you want their sponsorship $$$.

JohnR · 03-28-2006, 01:01 PM

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney

Flaptail · 03-28-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!

jim sylvester · 03-28-2006, 01:56 PM

Flap,
i agree,
I think it would be fantastic to have s-b.com win this cup..

what do you think john??

Sea Dangles · 03-28-2006, 01:58 PM

Many of us belong to more than one club to begin with.Declaring which one you're going to fish for is a hard choice already.Throw in s-b as another choice and sharpies will have their heads spinning and lines will be drawn

The pins will be a nice incentive for me to fish more than usual.People think it's easy getting cows from shore before the close of the tourney but I don't remember too many bigs coming before that date.From the boat though....

Redsoxticket · 03-28-2006, 01:59 PM

The rule below prevents what you indicated about entering because you have a last minute catch. It appears one can enter anytime providing.......

• A competitor must be registered in the derby 1 DAY BEFORE commencing to fish.

Skitterpop · 03-28-2006, 02:02 PM

I`ll do it! Can you do an individual and team entry concurrently?
Sounds like fun. Like Flaptail said, to be fair, you would have to have a timeframe for entry....say between now and May 1st.

$25.00 per member to John.

Sounds exciting!

Krispy · 03-28-2006, 02:15 PM

Again, I'm interested. I would like more clearly defined boat/surf fields. I don't really understand what the rules are saying about awarding points in that regard

Redsoxticket · 03-28-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Indanite

Like Flaptail said, to be fair, you would have to have a timeframe for entry....say between now and May 1st.

The rules have already been posted what is unfair is circumventing the rules.

Skitterpop · 03-28-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsoxticket

The rules have already been posted what is unfair is circumventing the rules.

? what do you mean? I`ll have to go read all the stuff I guess.

What I am saying is if S-B.com fields a team entry there should be a signup with a deadline to be on the team. Doesn`t seem right if a S-B er joins up Aug. 23rd catches a biggun on the 24th. Might fit the rulles but doesn`t look good...and yes that is just my opinion.

I`m from Ma. so I don`t know if I can join anyways. Isaw something about State/Club entries.....I might just have to do a solo entry.

Still sounds exciting!

JohnR · 03-28-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaptail

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!

Well, Neal did not ask me

what I thought (nobody did for that matter) and nowhere did anyone say S-B would not consider fielding a team. Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB

Seriously, I was going to look at more details at the show but did not get a chance and I had not made any determinations yet.

As for a member signing up on S-B and then entering the OTW cup as a S-B member, perhaps our normal rules would apply that in order to participate as an S-B torunament member you need at least 1 week of registration and 10 posts - as long as that fits within the rules of the OTW tourney...

ThrowingTimber · 03-28-2006, 03:17 PM

If all registered users saddled up for SB omg!! Total ownage!!!!

I understand guys want to fish for their clubs as well though, but the level of OWNAGE think about it...

Redsoxticket · 03-28-2006, 03:41 PM

The same can be said with other on-line clubs with members exceeding 10,000+

NIB · 03-28-2006, 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=JohnR] Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB

QUOTE]

I no Nothing.
I especially don't know what a doppelganger is.
Whats with the tooth thing??
Don't make me end this thread.
Not about killin lots o fish for total points.Anymore.killed my share in NJ club tourney's.Definetly not a tree hugger though. i love to eat fish.
All kinds.
Not sure i need any pins either.If it becomes something along the lines of shaeffer i might miss out on ownin some when i'm old an gray an no one will believe my line o crap.
If any talent gets in it will take a 60 lber to win.

westhavendave · 03-28-2006, 10:10 PM

Guys, I think you are putting the cart before the horse with this website team. The teams are representing the states they are in. How could S-B.com as a regional forum field a team only from one state. Maybe have state divisions of S-B.com. I don't think it is fair to the smaller traditional clubs, like my own CTSurfcasters with under 200 members if a 10,000 member site is allowed to compete. I don't think I like the fact of 10,000 formerly C&R guys trying to take two a week for a trophy

. A fishing club should be defined as a chartered club that holds monthly meetings. Maybe have a website challenge division next year. The key word here is traditional.

NIB · 03-29-2006, 06:23 AM

[QUOTE=NIB]

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR

Maybe he asked my doppelganger, NIB

QUOTE]

I no Nothing.
I especially don't know what a doppelganger is.
Whats with the tooth thing??
Don't make me end this thread.
Not about killin lots o fish for total points.Anymore.killed my share in NJ club tourney's.Definetly not a tree hugger though. i love to eat fish.
All kinds.
Not sure i need any pins either.If it becomes something along the lines of shaeffer i might miss out on ownin some when i'm old an gray an no one will believe my line o crap.
If any talent gets in it will take a 60 lber to win.

Ok so I just looked up Doppleganger."A flesh an blood duplicate of ones self encountered while walking down the street."
Johnnee don't Flatter urself.. I Am The Handsome NIB Manitoba.
There can be only one.

Skitterpop · 03-28-2006, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaptail

John, I was asked point blank why is S-B.COM not entering as a club by Neal Larson, OTW GM. You certainly qualify, you need to be a registered member to belong and access S-B.com But I would think you would have to have whoever, as an ethical thing, on board before you actually start collecting points. You know which members etc, wouldn't be fair to have someone join last minute cause he got a big one that day and enter it on S-B's behalf but I leave that up to you. I would enjoy seeing Team S-B.Com up there s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down some UFO from the cup at the party as they are awarded the cup!

Whats wrong with the odds 10,000 to 200? Better than Lotto.

And does that mean your CT club cannot fish in RI?

Seriously though.... John would probably have to field a RI and a MA team.... with some kind of set number. Though when all is said and done I think many will opt for solo membership.

Goose · 03-28-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaptail

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

I agree. Lookin forward to it.