Strper Cup ? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

jim sylvester · 03-27-2006, 08:42 PM

for 2007
we should go to otw and striper cup committee and put in for two divisions
boat
surf

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Squid kids Dad · 03-27-2006, 09:17 PM

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...

NIB · 03-27-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...

Part of the reason I didn't sign up at the show.OTW doesn't really reconize NJ.I still didn't get last months magazine.where will i have to weigh a fish at.???they say u have to be at the harpoon party to be eligible for the boat but they don't say where or when.Plus I really don't like boat an surf combinds.There are time we surf guys would smoke embut overall i think boat guys hjave a much greater chance to win so in essense my 25 dollars would be a doantion.I would rather buy a HAB's

mikecc · 03-28-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

I heard M&D'S will be a weigh station for the tourney...

I will be.
They have not worked out the final details with me yet.
They are working on more weigh in stations. Some shops have not gotten back to them and some shops have not even opened for the season as of yet.
They will be adding more. Just give it some time.

blue oyster · 03-28-2006, 10:12 AM

i enter several turnys each year just for some added fun . i have never weighed in a fish yet . (not very good at catching large but hopeful) , i am not going to kill a 32"-40" fish just to have a weigh in , when i know it won't win . 2 fish a week x how many entrants , way to many fish killed ,imho , i won't be signing up for this one

Rockport24 · 03-28-2006, 10:12 AM

yeah, they separate boat and shore for angler of the year and the weekly prizes, but it seems like that is it. It does not say if any of the other awards are separated boat and shore.
The other thing is that the bigger clubs have a huge advantage, but I guess that is just their reward for being a good club and having a lot of members.
Not sure how I feel about the two fish per week thing either, I doubt a lot of people will weigh in two fish per week, but I guess it is a concern.
Overall I think this is a good tourney. Leaving the big money prizes up to chance rather than who caught the biggest overall fish is a good way to work it.

Flaptail · 03-28-2006, 10:49 AM

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

Mike P · 03-28-2006, 11:28 AM

I think I'm going to enter. I like the fact that they're trying to restore the spirit of the old Schaefer tournament. As an individual (and I'll wait to see whether they'd allow s-b.com to qualify as a club before I send off my check) I wouldn't be entering 34" fish. My goal would be to have a pin, even a 30 pin.

It's the first year. Bound to be some growing pains, and participant feedback might allow OTW to fine tune the rules. I don't love the 9/17 end either, but lets face it, everyone has a shot at big fish in June. Plus, the 9/17 cut off really hurts New Yorkers more than it hurts guys in New England. Lots of years the fall run in NY hasn't even started then. As far as not wanting to compete with MV, assuming there's a weigh station on-Island, I don't see why a fish couldn't be entered in both. Weigh it at Coops, #^&#^&#^&#^&s, Larry's etc first if the Derby's cutting a fin would disqualify a fish. But, I'm willing to live with 9/17. You have to realize that tournaments like this rely heavily on the major sponsors, like Harpoon. If Harpoon wants the awards ceremony to coincide with their promotional interests, like an Octoberfest sort of celebration, you have to let them have it if you want their sponsorship $$$.

JohnR · 03-28-2006, 01:01 PM

If S-B can enter, I would certainly see the site field a team - perhaps also sweeten the pot with some additional prizes to the top S-B fisher (I don't think that would violate OTW's rules - 'course need to RTFM first)...

Might even need to arrange a special, err, trip for this tourney

Goose · 03-28-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

A wise man once said, "that when all else fails, read the instructions".

Having the contest end on the 17th of September makes it more fair in my opinion and a lot harder to win making it all the more sweet. Also, it evades the competition factor with the MV Derby. Two fish a week is nothing. Afterall, how many of you really think a 30lb fish is what historically considered a big fish? A nice fish maybe but not worth the bother. 40 is better, 50 the goal and 60 the grail. You are going to need a fifty to win individually and the ones I know fishing will be aiming for that. Really you gotta score 40's and fifty's.

As for clubs there really should be a Striped-Bass.com club entry. I am going to fish alone but there should be a S-B.COM club entry.

I agree. Lookin forward to it.

NIB · 03-27-2006, 09:40 PM

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Jimmy Ur a riot.
One long running gag...

Moses · 03-27-2006, 09:57 PM

I chatted with a rep for awhile there on sunday. Currently they have way stations from NY north to Maine. I asked specifically about NJ and he stated not yet. The year end party is at the Harpoon Brewery in Boston (been to a couple Octoberfest there - great time). Will be interesting how this first year runs......

Clammer · 03-27-2006, 10:04 PM

As far as the date ==========it sure ain,t for the boat fisherman ///WTF do you think we catch are large ???? July 4th weekend

BigFish · 03-27-2006, 10:08 PM

I thought there were 2 divisions? Surf and Boat?

Redsoxticket · 03-27-2006, 11:13 PM

The local tourneys such as the ms challenge, tri-state, mv tourney and the fishing club legs are more interesting to me. I don't want to be accountable to have to try to catch a 30#, 40#, etc. for what a pin or a rod/rell combo. I'd rather just fish and enjoy the moment.
The best part is the t-shirt and festival along with winning the Striper Cup for a club because it would represent the club and not just me, me, me.

Striper1 · 03-28-2006, 05:57 AM

If I read the rules right it's the club with the most points that gets the striper cup. Points are 1 pound = 1 point. you are allowed 2 fish a week over 34 inch.

The guys on this board that know me know I like the added chalenge of a tournament BUT I am not takeing 2 fish a week. That's a lot of striper fillets.

I will stick to the local msba Tournaments.

Squid kids Dad · 03-27-2006, 10:10 PM

I also think boat and shore should be seperated..And the cut off date should be extended..Lots of fishing left...I will be signing up anyways...

tattoobob · 03-27-2006, 10:25 PM

I just reread the entry form and no where does it say it is a separate contests. it keeps saying biggest fish. I would like to sign up with a club.
Does any one know if MSBA is getting involved?

Swimmer · 03-28-2006, 11:18 AM

I am going to sign up just participate in the first Schaefer Trophy being offered in a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if OTW is showing respect for the grand dame of all new england fishing tournaments, the MVSB & B tourney, by having 9/17 as its closing date. They probably dont want a fish being weighed in in both venues. It could take first place prizes in both tourneys taking the wind out of one or the other tounanments.

Swimmer · 03-28-2006, 11:21 AM

In reality the other day when I took the Scheafer Trphy from flaptail and ut it on the cart to be brought upstairs at "the razor" is probably the only time I'll get to hold it.

Swimmer · 03-28-2006, 11:23 AM

TattooBob it was nice meeting you ans the wife at the Razor.

NIB · 03-27-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer

As far as the date ==========it sure ain,t for the boat fisherman ///WTF do you think we catch are large ???? July 4th weekend

Theres a boat out of conn. Adriatica i think has had 60 lbers the last 2 yrs right after 4th of july..In Montauk they have been murderin giants live linen porgies same time.guys who know the waters an fish it hard like Kenny cowhunter an his sinsei Gary could have a field day in a tourney like this.It goes on an on.