FLW Saltwater Striper Trail part 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JFigliuolo · 02-23-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by squiddler

Am I allowed to chime in on subject?

I don't understand why we as recreational fisherman don't embrace this as a way to introduce new people to the sport, SNIPPED...

That's the MAIN reason I'm not crazy about it... The thought of MORE people fishing around me doesn't really sound all that great to me.

Pete_G · 02-23-2006, 09:02 AM

My understanding with the 12 year old girl is that someone guided her to that fish. It really wasn't luck, and a tournament like this will probably not allow anyone other then the registered angler to fish.

I know a lot of people said she deserved that win, and in that style of tournament it's fine I guess, but it's not going to fly in this sort of tournament. I doubt they will allow an angler to be "guided" to the fish. It's just not the way these tournaments work.

It's just my opinion, but watching charters go out through the years I can tell you a lot of the people that catch big fish on a charter would NEVER do so by themselves. It was the skill of the guide, not the client, and guides and commercial fisherman are exactly the sort of people I see getting involved in a tournament like this.

FormerUser · 02-23-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_G

My understanding with the 12 year old girl is that someone guided her to that fish. It really wasn't luck, and a tournament like this will probably not allow anyone other then the registered angler to fish.

I know a lot of people said she deserved that win, and in that style of tournament it's fine I guess, but it's not going to fly in this sort of tournament. I doubt they will allow an angler to be "guided" to the fish. It's just not the way these tournaments work.

It's just my opinion, but watching charters go out through the years I can tell you a lot of the people that catch big fish on a charter would NEVER do so by themselves. It was the skill of the guide, not the client, and guides and commercial fisherman are exactly the sort of people I see getting involved in a tournament like this.

Absolutely.

FormerUser · 02-23-2006, 01:20 PM

There are definitely lots of positive and negative aspects.Only time will tell how good or bad a thing this is.

Redsoxticket · 02-24-2006, 12:52 PM

Wallyworld may introduce specialized salt water tackle equipment from reels, rods, plugs, etc. of the type that most of our local tackle shops carry. The marketing personnel will find this opportunity to market these products on the TV, magazines, etc. which will create more competition for the local shops.

Rip Runner · 02-24-2006, 01:15 PM

Slapshot,

Don't get me wrong, many of the ASA members are top fisherman and know how to catch big fish consistantly. but there have been a few things I have seen from "a few" fisherman that have been less than honest. I have also seen rules bent for some and not others by the tournament organizer and that's just not right. I would rather not mention anyone, or any specific incident, I don't think starting a flame thread will really do anyone any good.

Pete_G · 02-23-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

That's the MAIN reason I'm not crazy about it... The thought of MORE people fishing around me doesn't really sound all that great to me.

That's the main reason I have reservations too.

DZ · 02-23-2006, 09:23 AM

Interesting - I won't give them too much credit unless they make the tourneys "artificial baits" only. A no bait rule will put more guys on an even level.

DZ

Backbeach Jake · 02-23-2006, 09:41 AM

I have a couple of thoughts on this:
1. When big money gets into this, there will be no spots undiscovered. There will be no peace anywhere on the shore. Just hoards of "Professionals"
2. It'll accellerate the pressure on bass because everyone will be looking for that million dollar fish. Even catch and release kills fish, like it or not.
3. It'll change forever how we, here, fish. You may never see a solitary moment again in the suds. Money does change everything.

Skitterpop · 02-23-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

I have a couple of thoughts on this:
1. When big money gets into this, there will be no spots undiscovered. There will be no peace anywhere on the shore. Just hoards of "Professionals"
2. It'll accellerate the pressure on bass because everyone will be looking for that million dollar fish. Even catch and release kills fish, like it or not.
3. It'll change forever how we, here, fish. You may never see a solitary moment again in the suds. Money does change everything.

more more more negatives when at this and all times less is better.
more access closures and trash I`m sure as well.

Million Dollar Baby

Fred!

Slinger · 02-23-2006, 10:35 AM

I highly doubt you`ll see any shore anglers pony up $2500. They just can`t compete with a boat fisherman on anything like an even basis.
Slinger

squiddler · 02-23-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

I have a couple of thoughts on this:
1. When big money gets into this, there will be no spots undiscovered. There will be no peace anywhere on the shore. Just hoards of "Professionals"
2. It'll accellerate the pressure on bass because everyone will be looking for that million dollar fish. Even catch and release kills fish, like it or not.
3. It'll change forever how we, here, fish. You may never see a solitary moment again in the suds. Money does change everything.

I'm interested in how the FLW / BASS tour has mucked up the sweet water scene? I'm thinking it hasn't caused 1 bit of traffic jam at the local fishing ponds/lakes. This will be a boat tourney, not a shore tourney, and that is 1 big ocean out there, in comparison to lakes/ponds.....my 2 cents

Skitterpop · 02-23-2006, 04:44 PM

Just one minor aspect:
No motor boats allowed.... then try fishing one with everything from Jet Skis, all sorts of motor boats, water skiing.... its a big difference.

What do all the boats and motors leak?

Ok... so there is a billion boats out there already.

I`m still sticking to more trash, more fish killed, more corruption, more boats, more parking problems....

How about quality of time spent fishing? Relaxed or racing all over desperate to catch fish.

I don`t know....something just doesn`t feel right about this.

Mike

squiddler · 02-23-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Indanite

Just one minor aspect:
No motor boats allowed.... then try fishing one with everything from Jet Skis, all sorts of motor boats, water skiing.... its a big difference.

What do all the boats and motors leak?

Ok... so there is a billion boats out there already.

I`m still sticking to more trash, more fish killed, more corruption, more boats, more parking problems....

How about quality of time spent fishing? Relaxed or racing all over desperate to catch fish.

I don`t know....something just doesn`t feel right about this.

Mike

Never looked at it from that point. When you put in that light I certainly see the issues it could raise.

FormerUser · 02-23-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Indanite

I`m still sticking to more trash, more fish killed, more corruption, more boats, more parking problems....
Mike

Lets hope they don't become major issues.You,me and everyone else has dealt with those issues.

FormerUser · 02-23-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

That's the MAIN reason I'm not crazy about it... The thought of MORE people fishing around me doesn't really sound all that great to me.

That certainly is a good point.

I don't think the impact on surf fisherman will be large.I doubt the exposure will bring the hordes out into the surf unless this was a surf tournament.I'm sure there will more boats at a given area after a tournament and especially after a TV episode.At the same time I'm sure charters will be up too.

Btw called that info# and wasn't given any info other than what's already been released.