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02-20-2006, 09:30 AM
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my two cents on walmart
10 years ago i was the national account manager selling to walmart.. to say the least a HUGE account. (2.6 million in one product) This is how WalMArt buyers work (probably VERY different from your buying strategies as the shop Pete.)
I would go in to see the buyer, present a contact with pricing, bogos,advertisment $$ ect,ect. The buyer wold then dictate to me the price in which he would want to buy the product for.. LESS THAN WHAT IT COST TO MANUFACTURE. Oversees production went to his price.
CORP. America = Greed
Pushing production oversees to get a inferior product for pricing.
As you can see, Walamrt is a bitter pill to swallow for me..
Regardless if they run the best striper tourney.. I would be against it.
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02-20-2006, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
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I would not worry too much about a pro-striper tour getting a foothold in the norheast.
There are lots of problems - weather, sponsorship and a short season being the three of the largest.
They'll try, and maybe they will even launch a couple, but its not going to fly in this culture. That's a red state sport.
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02-20-2006, 04:08 PM
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
I would not worry too much about a pro-striper tour getting a foothold in the norheast.
There are lots of problems - weather, sponsorship and a short season being the three of the largest.
They'll try, and maybe they will even launch a couple, but its not going to fly in this culture. That's a red state sport.
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I wouldn't be so sure.Its definetly gonna kick off this Summer.Will it last more than a couple seasons?That's the big question.
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02-20-2006, 06:02 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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FYI they make huge tubes like the ones they use for tunas on marlin boats, they call them striper tubes and are used in the hybrid tourneys. The fish goes in nose down, and water is pumped up through the mouth and gills keeping the fish alive.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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02-20-2006, 06:05 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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If Walmart is such a great company to it's employees, why did the feds bust them for forcing their employees to work unpaid ot, work through breaks and lunches without paying them for it. For every good Walmart employee story there are hundreds of negative ones. Unfortunately Walmart fills a giant void in this country, cheasp things for people with little to no money.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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02-21-2006, 02:38 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
If Walmart is such a great company to it's employees, why did the feds bust them for forcing their employees to work unpaid ot, work through breaks and lunches without paying them for it. For every good Walmart employee story there are hundreds of negative ones. Unfortunately Walmart fills a giant void in this country, cheasp things for people with little to no money.
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Not to mention, Wal-Mart and Home Depot have put more HARDER working Mom and Pop stores out of business than probably any other pair of corps in history. You must remember one thing there is NO little guy anymore. It's only the big guys and it's not making for a well balanced economy. I try not to give them business, although I do give them some. As for these companies giving "hard working" people jobs. Ever try to get help or (gasp!) sound advice in one of these places? I know there are some people in there that know their $#!+ but not many. As for the tournament.... I don;t think we have to worry about spot closures but it could get ugly from a mortality standpoint... and if I owned a boat and was going to enter this thing. I'd think twice simply because of the attention... you'd get followed everytime out.... ok I'm done.
-Dave
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02-20-2006, 06:09 PM
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
FYI they make huge tubes like the ones they use for tunas on marlin boats, they call them striper tubes and are used in the hybrid tourneys. The fish goes in nose down, and water is pumped up through the mouth and gills keeping the fish alive.
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I read an article about the "striper tube".Apparently its quite effective.
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02-20-2006, 10:23 AM
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Fishy man, real fishy....
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: above the mean high tide line....
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These anglers, due to entry fees, equipment necessary, etc., WILL be professionals, the elite of their sports. As far as bycatch goes, the recreational sector kills TONS more fish than the commercial sector, and it is well documented. These anglers will be seeking LARGE to get paid, and therefore targeting them specifically, releasing any small fish quickly and adeptly, with cameras/ spectator boats watching their every move. BASS and FLW tourneys pump major amounts of money in to the local venue economy, bringing tourist dollars, exposure, etc. that would otherwise not be there. The local shops will benefit greatly, as WALLY world is not setup to sell the vast array of live baits and tackle required by these anglers on the tourney trail. Regardless of your thoughts on "big business", this type of event affects so many other facets of local economy that to simply state WAlMART is greedy and therefore this tournamnet is too is just plain ignorant. The business end aside, the main issue here is benefit/detriment to the Striper population. I cannot fathom how this would harm the biomass, as these anglers will undoubtedly be interested in not only promoting their sport to the masses, but ensuring the "big money" payouts are there for years to come. They have a vested interest in kkeping the fishery healthy, obviuosly.
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02-20-2006, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
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Originally Posted by jim sylvester
my two cents on walmart
10 years ago i was the national account manager selling to walmart.. to say the least a HUGE account. (2.6 million in one product) This is how WalMArt buyers work (probably VERY different from your buying strategies as the shop Pete.)
I would go in to see the buyer, present a contact with pricing, bogos,advertisment $$ ect,ect. The buyer wold then dictate to me the price in which he would want to buy the product for.. LESS THAN WHAT IT COST TO MANUFACTURE. Oversees production went to his price.
CORP. America = Greed
Pushing production oversees to get a inferior product for pricing.
As you can see, Walamrt is a bitter pill to swallow for me..
Regardless if they run the best striper tourney.. I would be against it.
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Yep, reverse price setting. Genius and a great way to make money, but cruel to US companies.
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