I told you they were a bunch of criminals - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnR · 02-14-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whiplash

The guy didn't even shoot back!!

Sure 5 guys with SMGs were surrounding #^&#^&#^&#^&...

Important that nobody was seriously hurt - but the jokes coming off of this are hilarious...

But this is some of what we've heard:

The quail were "stocked" and "released" before the VP rat patrol vehicles, the "Lawyer" was coming back from a shoot, did not announce it, and apparently, the VP did not visually confirm the quarry was a legal "cock" or "hen" and just managed to take the shot on the lawyer instead... Or is he that bad of a shot??

Skip N · 02-14-2006, 02:06 PM

Its sad and I for one feel bad for Cheney and his buddy. How the hell would you guys feel if you shot your good friend by mistake? Knowing your buddy is in the hospital with all sorts of crap inside his body. And have to sit back and listen to the media joke about you and your buddy in the hospital. Nothing funny about this if you ask me. Some people are enjoying this and its rather sad and pathetic.

Backbeach Jake · 02-14-2006, 05:31 PM

Skip. I'd feel like an absolute arse. In my life, I've had slugs whiz by me 3 times. 2 were avoidable accidents, was was on purpose by a "misguided misanthrope". Lemme tell ya right freakin' now, without strict discipline in firearm safety, accidents are bound to happen. Deadly accidents. Cheney's hunting bud had a "mild heart attack" today from irritation from birdshot. Sounds like he got blasted pretty good. The "Only a Replublican" crack was just that , a wisecrack, nothing more. Hillary would be a good pointer tho...

missing link · 02-14-2006, 06:20 PM

The dude was in the line of fire , in Texas Quail hunting the rule of thumb is shoot right to left from 12 to 9 o'clock he was in the line of fire I heard this on OLN ?????????????????
ml

sok · 02-14-2006, 06:28 PM

I had an idiot take a shot over my head as I went out to change a target.
Once.
He won't ever do that again.
And I read today the sheriff or SP was notified within 1 hour.
The mainstream press is just pissed because the locals were notified before they were.

MoroneSaxatilis · 02-14-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sok

And I read today the sheriff or SP was notified within 1 hour.

So why did he wait 14 hours to interview the VP?

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Originally Posted by sok

The mainstream press is just pissed because the locals were notified before they were.

Why did it take so long to notify even the local press?

And of course, everyone knows by now that Cheney didn't even have the proper endorsement on his hunting licence.

Raven · 02-14-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MoroneSaxatilis

So why did he wait 14 hours to interview the VP?

Why did it take so long to notify even the local press?

And of course, everyone knows by now that Cheney didn't even have the proper endorsement on his hunting licence.

it was the ole chappaquid -#^&#^&#^&#^& trick

sok · 02-14-2006, 07:17 PM

The article I saw (with a timeline) said "they" scheduled an interview for 9:00AM the next morning at the time of the report.
Accident happened at 6:30pm. Reported at 7:50.
The article did not specify who "they" were.
Secret service or local sheriff.
I checked the Mass regs.
"Any hunting accident MUST be reported to state,local and or environmental police."
MA DFWELE
I would guess THAT law is pretty much the same from state to state.
Not trying to be a wiseass,just defending my post; but if I get winged in a hunting accident am I required to notify the AP? Or the local paper?

Skip N · 02-15-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sok

I had an idiot take a shot over my head as I went out to change a target.
Once.
He won't ever do that again.
And I read today the sheriff or SP was notified within 1 hour.
The mainstream press is just pissed because the locals were notified before they were.

Right on about the mainstream press...The press briefing at the Whitehouse looked pathetic yesterday, bitching and whining that they didnt know 5 minutes after it happened. Bunch of babies...Its not like they found out a week after the fact. It was less than a freakin day! Good god...the press sucks

Swimmer · 02-15-2006, 11:27 AM

At least Cheney and his buddies didn't leave the guy behind in the field to die...............

Skip N · 02-15-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

At least Cheney and his buddies didn't leave the guy behind in the field to die...............

Yes Kennedy is a real scumbag...he told NOBODY. But he's a liberal and a Kennedy so he gets a pass....

MoroneSaxatilis · 02-14-2006, 06:24 PM

By now everyone has heard that the guy that Cheney shot has run into complications. Apparantly, one shot either got lodged in his heart intially, or has migrated there, causing an irregular rythym or something (atrial fibrillation) that has been classified as a mild heart attack.
If it had been Ted Kennedy or Barney Frank Or Billy C that had shot someone, I doubt if the reaction from the media/entertainment world would have been any different. It's all umm...
*ahem*
...fair game.

Pete_G · 02-14-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MoroneSaxatilis

By now everyone has heard that the guy that Cheney shot has run into complications. Apparantly, one shot either got lodged in his heart intially, or has migrated there, causing an irregular rythym or something (atrial fibrillation) that has been classified as a mild heart attack.
If it had been Ted Kennedy or Barney Frank Or Billy C that had shot someone, I doubt if the reaction from the media/entertainment world would have been any different. It's all umm...
*ahem*
...fair game.

I haven't been following this news story too closely, but "peppered with buckshot" as was reported by the ranch owner is whole lot different then having a piece of buckshot either in the proximity of your heart or migrating towards it and causing a heart attack.

It was an accident but it shouldn't be taken so lightly. The truth would be nice. You'd think they'd know that if it looks like they're hiding something people are of course going to be suspicious.

sok · 02-14-2006, 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Pete_G]I haven't been following this news story too closely, but "peppered with buckshot" as was reported by the ranch owner is whole lot different then having a piece of buckshot either in the proximity of your heart or migrating towards it and causing a heart attack.

Maybe it was just shock?
A firearm being fired close to you but not by you (outside of a range when you expect it) really gets the adrenaline going.
(I know)
The guy was 78.
Bird shot out of a 28 gauge at 30 yds. 90 feet.
That's about the end of the effective range of a shotgun; isn't it?

Nebe · 02-14-2006, 07:50 PM

#^&#^&#^&#^& had a roast beef sandwich before the trip

can you believe that??

zacs · 02-14-2006, 08:13 PM

so if this dude croaks from complications can they charge #^&#^&#^&#^& with involuntary manslaughter?

MoroneSaxatilis · 02-15-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

#^&#^&#^&#^& had a roast beef sandwich before the trip
can you believe that??

There is much controversy surrounding this issue. It's still unclear whether the sandwich was made with fresh or previously frozen roast beef, and whether it had mustard or mayo on it.
There are even reports surfacing now that it may not even have BEEN roast beef, but some sort of luncheon meat.

Pete_G · 02-14-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sok

Maybe it was just shock?
A firearm being fired close to you but not by you (outside of a range when you expect it) really gets the adrenaline going.
(I know)
The guy was 78.
Bird shot out of a 28 gauge at 30 yds. 90 feet.
That's about the end of the effective range of a shotgun; isn't it?

I don't really know anything about guns other then paintball guns. If there's penetration near or into his heart though I'd have to say that he was in the "effective range" of the weapon.

My only point was the intial description of "peppering", in my view, implies lack of penetration versus what we have here, a BB possibly lodged in his heart and others elsewhere.

No one seems to have really discussed how badly he was hit. They mention face, throat and chest, but not much else. Now we learn there was clearly penetration and I just find it odd we didn't really know that before. And since you say that he was standing at the extreme end of "effective range" yet we have serious penetration, I can't help but be a bit suspicious of the reported distance. It's just my nature...

Again, I haven't been following this too closely, I may have missed a more accurate description of what took place that was released a couple days earlier.

Raven · 02-14-2006, 11:28 PM

will never be truly accurate....

what was said was... just after he fired....

ok -> this is what we're going to say happened...

and as far as penetration your exactly right because the pellet lodged in his heart had to go thru hunting clothing first...

what scares me is ...in the event we lost our current president...
this BOZO would be the commander in chief...