american cars suk!!

[thefishingfreak]

ohh try this too..
everyone go out to there car/truck.. right... open the drivers door and bend down to look at the bottom lip of the door, whear they fold the door skin over..i betya money there's allready rust there if it's more than a year old

[MoroneSaxatilis]

We got the xtended warrenty on our 2004 Trailblazer, but I haven't got it yet on the Silverado. I can still get it and probably will, it'll just cost a bit more. I have a soliticitation from GM on my desk right in front of me asking me if I'm interested as we speak.

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

ohh try this too..
everyone go out to there car/truck.. right... open the drivers door and bend down to look at the bottom lip of the door, whear they fold the door skin over..i betya money there's allready rust there if it's more than a year old

Nope. Definately not here. We wash & wax these things VERY regularly, even this time of year. When we do, we detail them inside and out, and always take care to treat ALL the nooks & crannies.
Sure we want them to look good, but also NEED to protect our expensive, overpriced purchases (it cracks me up when people call a new car an "investment". It's NOT; it will make me NO money. It's a straight-up purchase).

[Raider Ronnie]

(it cracks me up when people call a new car an "investment". It's NOT; it will make me NO money. It's a straight-up purchase).[/QUOTE]


"straight up purchase"
More like a Necessary evil !!!!

[Skitterpop]

By American workers

[Karl F]

Mike... do many people, (rough guess, % wise), do the extended warranty, at time of sale.. where you are? Or, are most people figuring, I'll own it 3-5 years, dump it, get another?

It will be a while before we spring for a new car, but, if we do, it will be a long term ownership, and was just wondering, if it is worth it.

[Vectorfisher]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

ohh try this too..
everyone go out to there car/truck.. right... open the drivers door and bend down to look at the bottom lip of the door, whear they fold the door skin over..i betya money there's allready rust there if it's more than a year old

Well my Ford is 10 years old and I dare you to find rust under any of the doors(all 3) You gotta take care of them and they will care for you, how many people actually wash the salt off the bottom of there doors 1x a month??? I do and that probably why my truck looks new still with nearly 170k on the odometer and started as my work truck for my business and now takes me hunting in Maine and pulls the boats all summer It is like anything else you get out what you put in, granted some vehicles have engineering prob's from the get go, you do your homework and avoid them. And before you tell me I got lucky and got a good one DONT because I can take you next door to my neighbors and show you the 93 E-250 van I sold him a year and half ago that had 276K on it and now has well over 300K and is driven daily :-)

[mikecc]

I have a 97 Chev 1500 only replaced a water pump on rust no rattles.
regular oil with Mobile 1
my fathers 97 Totota T100 has had the top end redone (recall)and front end done 3 times. Steering box(recall)also the bed is rotted thru at the wheel wells & replaced the rear bumper

I think I'll stick with the American

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

ohh try this too..
everyone go out to there car/truck.. right... open the drivers door and bend down to look at the bottom lip of the door, whear they fold the door skin over..i betya money there's allready rust there if it's more than a year old

Yep. And I'm more meticulous then almost anybody out there when it comes to car care. Anybody who's been to the shop has seen the shiniest silver paint ever on my truck in the lot. A few have even been treated to me yelling at a tourist opening their door into it. My door jambs get waxed regularly, nevermind the rest of my truck. I'm up in the wheel wells with a brush and everything (especially the bottom lip of the door since it rusts there) gets dried carefully after a wash. The truck, top and bottom, gets hand washed almost weekly even during the winter. Yet there's rust...

[thefishingfreak]

squirt PeNaTrating oil in there from day one, with the straw

[Vectorfisher]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

squirt PeNaTrating oil in there from day one, with the straw

Yep an ole trick I learned from watching my Dad take care of the sand sled when I was a kid

[Skitterpop]

and used/new car warranties


There is good and bad stories for both foreign and American
but the stats show certain foreigns to rate considerably better on average. Toyota and Honda are tops but none is perfect. Read MikeCCs post...there you go.


I have bought them and will only buy ones from the manufacturer...NO 3rd Party ! And I`d only buy if planning on long term ownership. Its the year or mileage whichever comes first remember.
You figure your mileage and time and buy accordingly. Plus they have a cost and an MSRP which is negotiable.

[Karl F]

Originally Posted by Indanite

and used/new car warranties


There is good and bad stories for both foreign and American
but the stats show certain foreigns to rate considerably better on average. Toyota and Honda are tops but none is perfect. Read MikeCCs post...there you go.


I have bought them and will only buy ones from the manufacturer...NO 3rd Party ! And I`d only buy if planning on long term ownership. Its the year or mileage whichever comes first remember.
You figure your mileage and time and buy accordingly. Plus they have a cost and an MSRP which is negotiable.

Thanks Mike, good info.

[Raven]

sometimes you just have to know when to walk away from a project car....you know...the fix or repair daily's vehicles you've owned...
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(expanding on FF's request to look for rust)
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one day at the junk yard where i had my 20 year old
"escape california van"
parked for maybe the last time... i walked around it several times thinking time to let her go....there's NO friggan way,,,,
as i stared at LONG gaping rust holes and rot.... EVERYWHERE
24" to 48" and 2 inches wide had rotted away....
and it was on all doors and side panels....ok ---
so much work it was mind boggling and way beyond repair
.....or SO it seemed......

then.....i started to formulate a plan involving a secret organization called HOME DEPOT.... 25 years of fabrication , a lust for tools,
FIXING anything and a sense of nostalgia began to emerge....
i can do this.... just .....imagine it... no dont....i need to do it...

suddenly the theme song to mission impossible started dancing
in my head
and i was off like a shot .....goin'
Dant DANT -dant dant dant dant, dant dant dant....dant.
badda DAHHH Badda Dahhh BADAH.... ZOOOOOOOOOM

at the domed heapo....
i bought several sheets of pre -bent galvanized duct work( sheet metal ) and several tubes of liguid nails, sand paper, fiberglass resin, fiberglass cloth, bondo and several boxes of self tapping hex head screws.
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i sand back the rust with coarse paper ,prime and slap on a bead of glue and then attach the pre fitted dry sheet metal with the self tapping screws til the next day.... then i back out the screws that show on the body...the ones underneath i leave in... and i grind
down the edge where the sheet metal overlaps the body....and apply a thin coat of hot pink (dry fast) bondo ...which is resin based...
and let that almost dry....where i criss cross score it with a blade.
after thats dry ...i mix up some fiber glass resin and paint it on top
of that seam and add a layer of cloth to cover it all....sometimes
two.... and soon - i had no more gaping rust holes anymore...!!!

i drove that sucka for a few more years....i love no car payments.

[Joey G]

I had a 95 k1500 with 286 k great truck ,had to sell her for something with more room. Bought a new 03 xcab k1500 miss the 95 she was mint.

[capesams]

after reading about trucks[pick-up's] on this thread , does anyone buy a truck for WORK anymore..like putting tools/brush/gravel/garbage/lumber etc. in it...or are they just for show these days?

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Indanite

and used/new car warranties


There is good and bad stories for both foreign and American
but the stats show certain foreigns to rate considerably better on average. Toyota and Honda are tops but none is perfect. Read MikeCCs post...there you go.


I have bought them and will only buy ones from the manufacturer...NO 3rd Party ! And I`d only buy if planning on long term ownership. Its the year or mileage whichever comes first remember.
You figure your mileage and time and buy accordingly. Plus they have a cost and an MSRP which is negotiable.

You can often tell all you need to know by the cost of an extended warranty. They're cheap for a Toyota or Honda and expensive for most domestics.

[Swimmer]

YUGO never did come out with a 4 x 4 before the factory was bombed did they?