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Old 01-21-2006, 08:03 AM   #1
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Ben, I can't buy the supply and demand argument any more. I can't help but conclude it's pure price gouging and windfall profit-taking.

Why does the price of crude today result in an immediate spike at the pump, when the oil purchased on those futures might still be in the ground over in Saudi?

Prices went up $1.50 a gallon in the 3 days after Katrina, well before the extent of refinery damage was known and before any adverse affect could have occurred to gas supplies. Yet, in the next 6 weeks, when any shortages that occurred would have had their greatest effect, prices fell to below where they were right before Katrina Could it have had something to do with Katrina hitting the week before Labor Day, after people made their final vacation plans (seeing how prices had remained relatively stable since Memorial Day when they usually rise) and the oil barons saw the opportunity to take some quick windfall profits?

Home heating oil? Most of what's currently in the supply line was refined months ago. And it's been a mild winter. Yet, they cite the need to divert crude supplies to heating oil production as one rationale for the prices spiking after the first week of December.

Sorry--I'm not some wild-eyed lefty, but I ain't buying Big Oil's bullscheit any more
I'm with ya on this.The oil company's are enjoying record profits this yr.Enough said.We need a goverment to take control of these situations unfortunatley there in on the windfalls also.The US economy cannot run on a 100 percent oil increase for long.There will be ramifications as Slip Stated the trickle down effect will snowball to our next recession.Then what will it cost us an our kids.
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Old 01-21-2006, 10:27 AM   #2
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Just got the new KeySpan bill---$481.81 for last month

The bastards aren't even coming to read the *&^%$#@ meter--ESTIMATED usage. I know we haven't used that much.
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Old 01-21-2006, 10:30 AM   #3
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You didn't think they were gonna "UNDERESTIMATE"......did you Mike? Thats reason number one why I will never own gas ever again!

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My bill was the same way estimate.off last yrs' usage?
This way they get all kinds of surpluss cash an bankroll it into more money.Meanwhile heating degree days are less than half of last yrs.says it right on the bill.
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Old 01-21-2006, 12:36 PM   #5
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If you can add a wood burning stove to your home you can drasticly reduce your heating bill. I'm furtunate enough to come across wood all year through my job, it can be a lot of work but well worth it. Our home is a tri-level style home with the bedroom upstairs our stove puts out enough heat that leaveing the bedrooms open is enough and the furnance rarely comes on. Granted we'd had a mild winter so far our gas bill has been under $125 last month. Wood isn't just for plugs ya know.
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My gas meter is read over the phone lines via a modem they installed right to the meter a few years ago. No more estimated readings.

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Old 01-21-2006, 12:04 PM   #7
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How about calling in your own gas meter reading. Its accurate but the gas co. would probably prefer to have it inaccurate, go figure.


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Just got the new KeySpan bill---$481.81 for last month

The bastards aren't even coming to read the *&^%$#@ meter--ESTIMATED usage. I know we haven't used that much.
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:18 PM   #8
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How about calling in your own gas meter reading. Its accurate but the gas co. would probably prefer to have it inaccurate, go figure.
It's funny you mentioned that how they would prefer to have it in there favor,Well It's true!

Four years ago we switched over to gas for heat,we have it for stove & water heater anyway that first winter was record cold,not to mention our bills were record high!I called and tried to talk with them bill after bill.(phone line metering)they told me it's a cold winter & you have an old house.I got fed up & did some digging on the bills I went out side to my meter & read it myself & compaired it with the bills they were off by a country mile!WTF!

Also in there defense they told me that their metering based on last winters heating bill.
Really!Tell me how can that be?I had oil last year!!!
Then I get the...O-maybe your meter is faulty we'll come out and take a look @ it.Well it was faulty and they replaced it.They would come out each month and take a reading.
Our bill was fixed but WFT If i said nothing at all we would still be paying through the nose,but If it was anything to do on my end they would cut us off

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Whenever they tie into the phone line to get the reading you are asking for trouble.I have heard of it screwing up home security systems and there are also privacy issues.People have also complained about the clarity of their conversations after this system is installed.Then if you call the bozos from the phone company they come and indiscriminantly start hacking away at wires.

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Old 01-21-2006, 09:14 PM   #10
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2.05 is good Ross,
I filled up once in December, and I've been shivering for the rest of the winter.
Still got a 1/2 tank left, gonna try to make it on one fillup.
Lots O' cooking around the Bomba house..stews, etc...anything that makes steam.
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Old 01-22-2006, 03:59 AM   #11
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$2.30 a gallon, 200 gallons = killing me

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