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01-18-2006, 03:15 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Not to thread hi-jack, but I'm curous if anyone knows why the coffe at a shop (Sbucks, Petes) tastes SOOOO much better in the shop than when I brew it at home?
Sdangles, awesome coffee review site, thansk for posting, I read a few reviews and bought some ! 
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01-18-2006, 03:25 PM
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My brother is bald
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Irish coffee of course
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seals + plovers =
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01-18-2006, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Not to thread hi-jack, but I'm curous if anyone knows why the coffe at a shop (Sbucks, Petes) tastes SOOOO much better in the shop than when I brew it at home?
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It's probably because you haven't a clue as to what you're doing
-spence
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01-18-2006, 04:34 PM
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Eight O'Clock Columbian brewed strong and black.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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01-18-2006, 05:27 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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i like to camp on the west branch of the penobscott salmon fishing and that first am camp coffee is the BEST!
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01-18-2006, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afterhours
i like to camp on the west branch of the penobscott salmon fishing and that first am camp coffee is the BEST!
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Coffee perked on the fire is true Heaven!
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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01-18-2006, 07:12 PM
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Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Coffee perked on the fire is true Heaven!
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Cowboy style with the large coffee can and a stick?
That brings back some memories...
-spence
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01-18-2006, 09:25 PM
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North Shore Lurker
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Not to thread hi-jack, but I'm curous if anyone knows why the coffe at a shop (Sbucks, Petes) tastes SOOOO much better in the shop than when I brew it at home?
Sdangles, awesome coffee review site, thansk for posting, I read a few reviews and bought some ! 
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Commercial brewers have constant hot water.
Always-on heater.
They start with hot water.
Home brewers have the same coil for heating the water and the pot.
They start cold.
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01-18-2006, 11:55 PM
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That certainly is a major factor.
Jimmy, think of making coffee as an equation with various factors. I'll even (intentionally) over complicate this a bit just to irk PIEMMA
1. Water quality - A commercial machine will have a water filter, so use filtered water at home. Remember coffee is 99.9% water.
2. Proper water temp - Get a machine that brews at the proper temp, there are reviews online that will often indicate this. It's not always a function of price.
Insulated carafes work great, but you do need to pre-heat the carafe before the brew. If the machine has a hot plate, don't let the coffee sit and bake...drink it quickly.
3. Grind size - Make sure the coffee is ground to the proper size for your filter configuration or brew method. If you're grinding at home you may need to play around to get it right.
4. Grind consistancy - Ideally the grind should be as uniform as possible. If it's uneven you will have smaller particles that will release too much bad stuff and larger particles that won't release the good.
Burr grinders are best, and I've found I like to just let the coffee shop do the grinding. They keep things tweaked properly and sharpened. As long as you consume the coffee quickly (< 1 week) there's not that much loss in flavor, assuming you're having a cuppa and not cupping.
Blade grinders are evil, unless you're grinding spices
5. Storage - Coffee likes to be sealed up cool, dark and humid. Since you really don't have anywhere in your house like this, just keep it in a sealed container. Don't put it in your freezer.
6. Good beans - Freshly roasted good quality coffee beans really do make a difference. There are a lot of global politics in coffee production. Buying Fair Trade coffee from a specialty roaster isn't just eco-friendly, it will ensure there's good coffee at a reasonable price for the future.
Assuming you hold things as consistant as possible, there's still plenty of tolerance to ensure it comes out great every time. Pay attention to what you're doing and note what works...then do that!
But hey, if you like cheapo coffee made over a camp fire...by all means do what feels good.
-spence
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01-19-2006, 12:01 AM
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Dont drink much coffee But DD'S does it for me...Especially ice coffee
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I'm going where I'm going...
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01-19-2006, 07:07 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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[QUOTE=spence].
But hey, if you like cheapo coffee made over a camp fire...by all means do what feels good.
 you got a problem with that sweetpea?
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01-19-2006, 07:22 AM
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[QUOTE=afterhours]
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Originally Posted by spence
 you got a problem with that sweetpea?
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Nope, just showing deference to various forms of coffee production honey pie
-spence
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01-19-2006, 07:59 AM
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Some find even the mild Starbucks blends too strong.
I'll drink Starbucks, but truth be told, Dunkin Donuts hazlenut is my fav (and yes you can take it home).
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01-19-2006, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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Quick check premium ground coffe.2 13 once cans for 5 dollars.
Not really a fan of starpuke tried it twice an had to toss it.
Coffe in my perkulator is the best bar none.Hot water is the key to good coffe.Try putting some grings in a sock an pouring some boiling water over it for a nice flavor.
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01-19-2006, 08:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
That certainly is a major factor.
Jimmy, think of making coffee as an equation with various factors. I'll even (intentionally) over complicate this a bit just to irk PIEMMA
1. Water quality - A commercial machine will have a water filter, so use filtered water at home. Remember coffee is 99.9% water.
2. Proper water temp - Get a machine that brews at the proper temp, there are reviews online that will often indicate this. It's not always a function of price.
Insulated carafes work great, but you do need to pre-heat the carafe before the brew. If the machine has a hot plate, don't let the coffee sit and bake...drink it quickly.
3. Grind size - Make sure the coffee is ground to the proper size for your filter configuration or brew method. If you're grinding at home you may need to play around to get it right.
4. Grind consistancy - Ideally the grind should be as uniform as possible. If it's uneven you will have smaller particles that will release too much bad stuff and larger particles that won't release the good.
Burr grinders are best, and I've found I like to just let the coffee shop do the grinding. They keep things tweaked properly and sharpened. As long as you consume the coffee quickly (< 1 week) there's not that much loss in flavor, assuming you're having a cuppa and not cupping.
Blade grinders are evil, unless you're grinding spices
5. Storage - Coffee likes to be sealed up cool, dark and humid. Since you really don't have anywhere in your house like this, just keep it in a sealed container. Don't put it in your freezer.
6. Good beans - Freshly roasted good quality coffee beans really do make a difference. There are a lot of global politics in coffee production. Buying Fair Trade coffee from a specialty roaster isn't just eco-friendly, it will ensure there's good coffee at a reasonable price for the future.
Assuming you hold things as consistant as possible, there's still plenty of tolerance to ensure it comes out great every time. Pay attention to what you're doing and note what works...then do that!
But hey, if you like cheapo coffee made over a camp fire...by all means do what feels good.
-spence
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Spence,
Where do you find the time?
This is easier & faster:
1. Just use water out of your faucet or hose - its getting heated anyway, that will kill all the bacteria...
2. If your machine doesn't produce hot enough coffee just stick the cup in the microwave after its brewed...
3. Grind size & consistency. No problem. Just get some beans, put them in a strong bag like the ones that Storm Shads come in, and beat the hell out of them with a hammer; or if you want to get fancy use a meat tenderizer. Just get good filters that keep the chunks out of your coffee...
4. I store my coffee in the frig'...
5. Only buy beans that come from rain forests that have been slashed & burned. They taste the best are have been "pre-roasted". Don't be fooled by "fair trade". That's a democrat-created misnomer for coffee that costs more. I even think some of the proceeds go to Hillary. I digress.
You know I'm just kidding of course. I like a good cup of coffee as much as anybody. Do what Spence said...
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01-19-2006, 08:58 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Spence;
Never ever look at my office coffee pot or coffee mugs again, if you do you may never talk to me again...
If you read JoeP's thread above, thats basically what I do.. I make a pot in the morning then mircowave it during the day when I need a cup... no milk or sugar, oh and I rarely wash my mug....
Oh and unless someone gives me a bag of good coffee, I generally use whatever coffee is on sale
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-19-2006, 09:40 AM
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Registered User
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Spence;
Never ever look at my office coffee pot or coffee mugs again, if you do you may never talk to me again...
If you read JoeP's thread above, thats basically what I do.. I make a pot in the morning then mircowave it during the day when I need a cup... no milk or sugar, oh and I rarely wash my mug....
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Thanks for reminding me...I completely forgot about cleaning!!!
7. Every month, white vinegar works well but CleanCaf works even better...
-spence
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01-19-2006, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeP
Where do you find the time?
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Seriously? My wife does it every morning
-specne
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01-19-2006, 10:04 PM
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She does all that before coffe??
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01-19-2006, 10:14 PM
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Yup, right before she starts yelling at me for the day.
-spence
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