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Old 11-16-2005, 12:33 PM   #1
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Religion(god) is responsible for all death and destruction on this planet.To deny that is simply foolish.

Remove the idea of god from peoples' minds and the world would truly be Peaceful for the first time.
If you really believe that you are the one being foolish. Stalin was an atheist and killed millions. The tutsis who carved up a million hutus didn't profess to be doin it in the name of any god. Neither the First or second world wars had any religious overtones, unless you count the fact that hitler killed thousands of people simply because they believed in "the one whose name cannot be spoken." But if you think that all "death and destruction" is religiously motivated you had better go back a re-read your history books.

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Old 11-16-2005, 08:28 PM   #2
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If you really believe that you are the one being foolish. Stalin was an atheist and killed millions. The tutsis who carved up a million hutus didn't profess to be doin it in the name of any god. Neither the First or second world wars had any religious overtones, unless you count the fact that hitler killed thousands of people simply because they believed in "the one whose name cannot be spoken." But if you think that all "death and destruction" is religiously motivated you had better go back a re-read your history books.
You don't get it!!!

Your entire statemwent explains it!!!Stalin killed millions BECAUSE of religion ...it was a threat!!!

Spend a little more time with the hutus and tutsi thing.THAT'S defenitly a religious thing.Both tribes believe in different gods that's why they kill one another.

My favorite is your Hitler statement.How shall I begin on this one.First Hitler
believed the Germans to be "god's chosen".The jews were not therefore they
should be exterminated.

I'm an atheist you CAN'T defend your religious beliefs to ME.

My suggestion to you would be not to re-read the history books but to read about the ACTUAL history.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:42 PM   #3
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The question is this- does god think that violence is the answer to all of lifes disputes?
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:46 PM   #4
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Your entire statemwent explains it!!!Stalin killed millions BECAUSE of religion ...it was a threat!!!
Only if you're talking tax exempt status for the church

Seriously Wipe, I think you may be a little O2 depleted from catching all those schoolies this fall. Stalin's carnage was political and had little to nothing to do with religion.

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Old 11-16-2005, 10:05 PM   #5
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Seriously Wipe, I think you may be a little O2 depleted from catching all those schoolies this fall. Stalin's carnage was political and had little to nothing to do with religion.

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I would love for you to say that to my grandparents.Folks who are not of that generation and did not live there simply don't know.My grandparents suffered for one reason and one reason only and it had absolutely nothing to with Stalin's politics but more because of my grandparents religious beliefs.
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I'm assuming because they were Jewish?

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Old 11-16-2005, 10:45 PM   #7
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Am I missing something here ??? Boy did this take a turn...

I'm going where I'm going...
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:54 PM   #8
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I'm assuming because they were Jewish?

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:36 AM   #9
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Basswipe is one pissed off atheist! Dude chill out just a little. i thought i was getting worked up on this topic but you are just going nuts. Nice to see you see some value in Christmas though...You use a Christian holiday when you can get free stuff. be a true atheist and dont celebrate xmas and dont recieve any gifts. And your buddy Bob's first post used the phrase "brain washed christians" or something like that. Clearly a statement made to piss off Christians.
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Old 11-20-2005, 11:33 AM   #10
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I'm assuming because they were Jewish?

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Nah.Christians living in a society(Soviet that is) where any beliefs were a threat
so they left.Ended up in beautiful Beirut Lebanon until the Syrians(muslims) and the Israelis(jews) invaded and laid waste to entire country over religious views.
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