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Old 11-02-2005, 09:04 AM   #1
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I actually just got a new winter catalog from Melton Tackle and those new X-Tools pliers are in there for $99.
Bad info I guess.
Here's where it came from.
http://www.tackleunderground.com/index.php?page=9

As Pete G said, they don't work very well at trying to wrench out a big treble, but the cutters work better on braid than anything else I've tried.

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Old 11-02-2005, 09:36 AM   #2
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Thanks for all the great info. Has anyone used the Accurate pliers?
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:09 PM   #3
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Thanks for all the great info. Has anyone used the Accurate pliers?

I have 2 pairs of the accurates.
When they 1st came out there was a problem with them bending very easily!
I called the company and they told me they knew of problems with them bending and were redesigning them so they would not bend.
They sent me a new (improved) pair allong with a shipping package to return the old ones.
about 2-3 weeks after returning the bent pair, they sent me the 2nd (new) pair (no charge)
I use them ALL the time and they cut anything, though I don't trust them to try to cut a hook!!!
They are great, but the Van Staals are better, but the Van Staals cost a lot more!!!

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:56 PM   #4
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Thanks for all the great info. Has anyone used the Accurate pliers?
Wahlie was using a pair of them for a little while this summer. He bent them and then they became 2 part pliers not too long after. If that kid breaks them as little as he fished this year, I doubt they would last for you.

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Old 11-10-2005, 05:02 PM   #5
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Wahlie was using a pair of them for a little while this summer. He bent them and then they became 2 part pliers not too long after. If that kid breaks them as little as he fished this year, I doubt they would last for you.
I've even heard a rumor of a recall. I know where they probably broke and I noticed a lot of the new copies of the VS/Accurate plier have the same weakness. Time will tell...

Never heard of a VS plier bending though.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:31 PM   #6
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Hmmm, there appears to be those people that are very happy with the Accurate pliers and those that have had problems. I guess I would wonder if Wahlie's were old version or new version. You know $150 for pliers is crazy but $280 is certifiable.......Maybe I will email Accurate and see what they have to say about the bending issue.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:53 PM   #7
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Hmmm, there appears to be those people that are very happy with the Accurate pliers and those that have had problems. I guess I would wonder if Wahlie's were old version or new version. You know $150 for pliers is crazy but $280 is certifiable.......Maybe I will email Accurate and see what they have to say about the bending issue.
It's an extreme minority that has had an issue with the Accurate's. I have never actually seen it with my own eyes, I've only heard about it. Supposedly at the thinnest point where the cut is made in the metal for the cutter is where they can bend or break. If you look, it is fairly thin in that spot.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:50 AM   #8
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JoeP is right about the Donmars, the sissor type (which is what I have) don't cut braid very well even when new but cut just about everything else, including heavy wire with ease. But I doubt they could go thru a 6X trebble hook. (I have a pair of bolt cutters for that) The are very good rigging pliers though. You can also send them back and they will rebuild or replace your pliers for 30 bucks. (My buddy has done this on his) If I were to buy a new pair I would get the anvil cutters.

I have a pair of sharp sissors when am working with braid at the bench but on the boat or beach I clip it with a pair of sharp nail type clipper that I found at a fresh water tackle show.

PS get the lanyard and clip it to your belt!

Those Xtools pliers cut braid with ease but do nothing else. IMO they should not call them pliers. You can't use them as pliers, they are plastic and they bend and twist if you try to grab a hook with them.
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:44 PM   #9
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Thumbs up accurate's

i've been using the accurate's since the start of the season. no problems to date. the jaws and the cutters are titanium, the grips are anodized aluminum, the spring that keeps them open seems to be sealed, (i see a little grease where they join) smooth as butter. if you've ever held one of their reels in your hands you know what their build quality is like. totally modular, every part is replacable. sometimes with large bluefish i wish they were just a little longer. not cheap, but probably a 10+ year tool if not more. way less $ than vs
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:34 PM   #10
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Beats paying full price

Hey Jeff if your still interested I found this coupon for Van Staal pliers.

http://tackledirect.com/fishingcoupons.html
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:44 PM   #11
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2nd look

Well I see now that that price is for the stainless not the titanium.

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Hey Jeff if your still interested I found this coupon for Van Staal pliers.

http://tackledirect.com/fishingcoupons.html
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:48 PM   #12
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Titanium will never corrode. Along with being light and very strong it is probably the most corrosion resistant metal on earth. Most of the work I do is for the Oceanographic industry and they all use it now. Some of the things are thrown in the ocean for years at a time. The only problem is the expense. It is up to $45 a pound, doubled since last year, and that price can only be quoted for 5 days and then it can change. To give you an idea a 12' long bar 1" dia. cost $1100.00 last week. Worked on a piece last week the raw stock cost $13,000 without any work being done on it yet. Nerve-racking to say the least. The price to machine it also adds cost too because it requires more time. A lot of cash for a pair of pliers. Paul

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Old 11-09-2005, 04:36 PM   #13
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Good numbers there Professor. It definitely explains part of the price on the Van Staals.

Just saw the new Ross Pliers as well. Ross has been making fly reels for years and has apparently decided to start making pliers as well. They look like VS pliers only they are made of aluminum. I don't have a price on them yet, but it'll probably be very similar to the Accurate's. Sports Tools is also developing a similar plier. There will be more options on the market shortly in the middle price range.
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:05 PM   #14
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I purchased a set of accurate,the large ones,washed them off once with water and w-d them once, cutters still cut braid and they work just as well as the day i purchased them, several hundred fish later. They were in and out of the water several times a week from may till now. Worth the money i'm going to get a second set for the boat.Lighter than the vs pliers and just as rugged.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:06 PM   #15
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Fishpond has them as well:

http://www.fishpondusa.com/barracuda.cfm


One problem with the Ross & Fishpond versus the Orvis, VS, & Accurate is the Ross & Fishpond carry only a 1-year warranty.
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