Spot X

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by spence

I think this really is at the root of it all. How many of us had a grandfather or father teach us how to fish, without ever really giving much direct information...they led us and with their help we really learned (earned) on our own.

-spence

Or learned it all on there own. My father is a great man, but DAMN why couldn't he have fished??!?!?!?!?!?!

[RIJIMMY]

I guess I still dont get it.
PIe, I'd gladly post my favorite spots, but I cannot honeslty say anyone would catch fish there.
I'm 99% sure I know where spot X is, based on what you described. I had my best night in the surf there 2 years ago. Since then, nothing special.
I really cant debate this becasue I dont feel strongly about it. Most spots I fish, like PJ, have lots of parking and access. They hold good fish, although I dont catch any, and yet I'm alone 99% of the time.

[RIJIMMY]

Whats with the "white bucket" comments? I carry my eels in one, where do you carry yours? Waders?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Jim, again, my point was ONLY that the article brought more pressure to the spots, thats it...
I carry my eels in a soft cooler/lunch bag thing...

[Krispy]

mesh eel bag, mayonaisse jar w/ strap, small soft-sided cooler.
A bucket is kinda big for a dozen eels, eh?

[RIJIMMY]

I ice em wth 2 buckets, one with holes in it draining the water. been doin it for years, my dad did it for 30 before me.

[bart]

comparing PJ to the spot bryan is referring to is like comparing apples to oranges. Pj can support 5 times the number of people the other spot can.

[RIJIMMY]

I wasnt comparing the spot I was comparing the article.
So, the rule should be, dont write about spots with limited access, only write about spots with large parking lots.

[kayaman]

the influx probably won't last long.... they will check it out but after a week or so they will move on to other spots that are X'ed out

[piemma]

I carry my eels in an old plastic mayo jar on my belt. I'll check my posts but I don't believe I made any derogatory remarks regarding 'white buckets".

[RIJIMMY]

Not you Pie, someone did and I was very sad.

[spence]

In the 18th century, the white bucket was seen as a sign of affluence.

-spence

[choggieman]

I mentioned the white buckets, but did not mean it in a derogatory way. I used to carry my gear in a bucket when I started. My point was more to the fact that there were 12 guys shoulder to shoulder spread over 35 yards at a spot that there usually isn't that many. What I should have referred to was the unbeleivable number of head lamps and flashlights on a very moonlit night, especially the ones in the water constantly. There just seems to be more new faces that are in the beginning stage of surffishing. It would probably be great for someone to write an article about etiquette and ethics in surfishing. Maybe then the crowding and head lamps and inconsideration for others would start to wane. Nothing like standing on a rock and having two yahoos jump in front of you........
The idea of spot burning has always fired me up, but since the OTW article, I have been more and more conscious of it. I have lost patience with people who insist on blabbing, wether it be in print or on a website. I just read a thread on another site over in ct and the blabbing about soco was unbeleivable...... so do not be surprised when we all see lotsa new faces at the spots Mckenna omitted. And when we do, we have someone to thank.
I also fish in less than favorable conditions and am seeing more guys at these spots than I ever have. I cannot imagine what it'll be like when its nice.

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Not you Pie, someone did and I was very sad.

And I made it quite clear I was in that camp for awhile... Are we THAT politically correct that where bieng called a white bucket brigade members is offensive? Sad....

[RIJIMMY]

I was totally kidding about the bucket! Geeeez, everyone needs to lighten up!

[Squibby17]

To be honest, I posted in the ridiculously long thread before hand not having received my issue of OTW. I more or less said that guys are going to want information before going to a new spot, and in general people cut corners when they can, god knows I do.

however after reading OTW when IT FINALLY came, I'm a little more under standing as to why you rhody guys are upset. That article was way more detailed than it probably should have been. This past weekend I went to a honey hole spot that I found and researched alot, and got into some nice fish. This spot does not have lots of parking and is extremely close to some wealthy land owners. If it was burned I would be pissed too. I take back some of the previous posts i made in the OTW thread because I hadn't read the article and didn't think how it would be if it was my spot.

[rivsie11]

Originally Posted by Spence

In the 18th century, the white bucket was seen as a sign of affluence.

[chris L]

get a home dirtpile orange colored one . no racial undertones



I KILL MYSELF SOMETIMES

[Mr. Sandman]

Don't get mad, get even. Give him a taste of his own teachings. Burn a couple of his private honey holes. It can be done, it is not as hard as it sounds. Write your own article...something like...Striper hotspots SM actually fishes, by Suds Anguilla" And demand OTW publish it in fairness and blast it on the web as well.


Or

complain to OTW about printing that kind of low blow article and how it impacts serious anglers.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

Don't get mad, get even. Give him a taste of his own teachings. Burn a couple of his private honey holes. It can be done, it is not as hard as it sounds. Write your own article...something like...Striper hotspots SM actually fishes, by Suds Anguilla" And demand OTW publish it in fairness and blast it on the web as well.


Or

complain to OTW about printing that kind of low blow article and how it impacts serious anglers.

Several things - further spot burning would not do any justice (regardless that I fish some of those other spots that he fishes). The places he mentioned ARE places he fishes too, maybe not as regularly as others but I've been to some this year as has he.