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Old 09-08-2005, 12:20 PM   #1
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Actually it was liberals who first began (politically) to use the prefix "neo" to describe changes within their own ranks. What your saying makes little sense.
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Do a google search on the two terms. Does this make any sense?

Excerpted from: http://thebarristers.com/weblog/2004..._archived.html

"More importantly, "neocon" is looked upon as a truly inspired phrase that captures two negatives in one short phrase. Ask yourself: when has "neo" been used in conjunction with any other word to describe a large group of people? We don't have neobarmaids or neoteachers or neopoliticians. We don't have neotruckdrivers or neodoctors or neostargazers. We don't have neorepubs or neodems or neogreens.

But we do have neonazis.

Go ahead, Google "neonazi" in a websearch (69K hits) or even recent news (352 hits). When I see a word that starts out as "neo...", my mind immediately starts to fill in the rest: "...nazi".

Oh, it's not nazi, it's con. Right.

Not too subtle. Liberals like using "neo" because it conjures up that "n" word, a word that carries a significant amount of baggage. Long before there were conservatives, there were Nazis. Long before there were neocons, there were neonazis. Except for The Matrix, "neo" has rarely been connected to any word but Nazi. Until now.

Bush = Nazi

Neocon = Neonazi.

Get it?

It goes without saying that "con" certainly carries a negative connotation."
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:59 PM   #2
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:21 PM   #3
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Ask yourself: when has "neo" been used in conjunction with any other word to describe a large group of people?
Moot. There really arn't that many neo-con's either...a small group has too much influence...that's a large part of the problem.

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Old 09-08-2005, 01:59 PM   #4
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The term has actually been around since the Reagan era. Originally, it referred to people like Lyn Nofzinger, mainly people who were 60s liberals and who turned to the right as they got older. That's where the "neo" came from then. Newly converted conservatives. I won't speculate on what it's current meaning is, or the intentions of those who throw the word around.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:36 PM   #5
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Moot.
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Of course it is
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:24 AM   #6
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Ask yourself: when has "neo" been used in conjunction with any other word to describe a large group of people? We don't have neobarmaids or neoteachers or neopoliticians. We don't have neotruckdrivers or neodoctors or neostargazers. We don't have neorepubs or neodems or neogreens.

But we do have neonazis.
I've always felt that "neo" meant new and was used to enhance certainl words, to narrow the meaning. So I looked it up:

"NEO" means new or recent "adj : (used as a combining form) recent or new; "`neo' is a combining form in words like `neocolonialism'""

New; recent: neonatal.
New and different: Neo-Freudian.
New and abnormal: neoplasm (underline abnormal )

"NEO" has nothing to do with the Nazi party other than to signify that it is a NEW or RECENT Nazi party (seeing the original Nazi party is illegal in Germany).

Now, NEO or N.E.O. - Near Earth Objects, may be what Liberals used as basis to label the NEOcons as that like near earth objects, you can see these NEOcons, but they are not often "grounded" in reality... (that was a joke )

I do think - hopefully - there will be a lot of "NEOmoderates" or "NEOindependents" in upcoming elections. That make sound decisions in the interest of America and the future of America. Not the 90 day, 180 day, or 365 day view... And that if they are thinking and acting long term (democarcy in the Middle East IS a lofty and worthy goal) that they do so in a competent, non-bungling manner - and not look to - paraphrase here for near-family content - like a monkey having relations with a football. People that will think of shaping the country to the benefit of all and especially the middle class. Why should the corporations making oooodles of profits get further tax cuts and incentives and schools get less funding? Why should the richest of the rich get another tax cut when middle america gets further squeezed? WHen the upper corp types have incentive to offshore the jobs of the lower people. This isn't trickle down economics but trickle down used cars - usually gas guzzlers. This is

As someone that has a mediocre combined family income, the swiftly increases of cost in gas, home heating oil, insurance, medical, education,
food and necessary consumer goods is taking me out of the economic engine that is America. The drastic increases in these costs consume a significantly larger portion of my budget (most in fact) than what a "rich" person say houshold income of 250K or 500K or 1mil. These people can weather spending $100 per week in gas or doubling their home heating costs. I can't without significant sacrifice. If these people that are making the decisions that effect us all base those decisions on THEIR experience and THEIR comfort levels than a lot of us - me included - will reach our "Tipping Point" much sooner than those in the "know". What happens when our country reaches the Tipping Point before those out of touch in power think it does? I'm just one tooth in a machine of cogs that has worn down and is slipping. How many other teeth need to be shaved before the machine slips again? What happens when enough teeth are shaved off the gears of economy that the gears shudder, slip, then fail to turn?

This is what scares me, that those in power in gvmt and in big biz DO NOT understand or care about the middle class or the long term future - beyond Wall Street predictions - of our country.

Oh yeh - feel free to debate these threads but no personal attacks and name calling - thanks...

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Old 09-09-2005, 11:16 AM   #7
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:32 PM   #8
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:10 PM   #9
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I think THIS sums it up pretty well.


and this as well-

"... I went to Florida a few days after President Bush did to observe the damage from Hurricane Andrew. I had dealt with a lot of natural disasters as governor, including floods, droughts, and tornadoes, but I had never seen anything like this. I was surprised to hear complaints from both local officials and residents about how the Federal Emergency Management Agency was handling the aftermath of the hurricane. Traditionally, the job of FEMA director was given to a political supporter of the President who wanted some plum position but who had no experience with emergencies. I made a mental note to avoid that mistake if I won. Voters don't chose a President based on how he'll handle disasters, but if they're faced with one themselves, it quickly becomes the most important issue in their lives." - Bill Clinton, My Life (p. 428)

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I'm a neobe
from neojersey
I can't read the neoyork times
but i carry one around all the time in public.
lookin for a neoworld order
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