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Grumpy Old Pharts Board Gerritol, Ex-Lax, Immodium, Bad Breath - all requirements for the Grumpy Board |
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09-05-2005, 04:06 PM
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09-05-2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by STRIPER77
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S77, Rightly So because the response of the govt gave the crininal element a chance to break down into the anarchy seen and experienced because of the loss of all order. Not because it was their right and priviledge but because the chance was given for them to go over the edge. Again, the result of the government to failing look to thier own and see the problems in our own backyards. Poverty breeds ignorance and the spawn of that ignorance is the resulting actions of these people in the total abscence of law and order.
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Why even try.........
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09-05-2005, 06:56 PM
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Which Way Did They Go
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S77, Rightly So because the response of the govt gave the crininal element a chance to break down into the anarchy seen and experienced because of the loss of all order. Not because it was their right and priviledge but because the chance was given for them to go over the edge. Again, the result of the government to failing look to thier own and see the problems in our own backyards. Poverty breeds ignorance and the spawn of that ignorance is the resulting actions of these people in the total abscence of law and order.
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Free will Flap....free will.......it doesn't matter how wealthy or poor a man is to make up his mind how to live his life.....granted, that is a lot easier to say if one is wealthy then if one is poor, but IMO, that is also why many of the poor people are so honorable -- becuase no matter how tempting it is for them to cheat during times like this, many still do not.........it is not the government's fault many of these people bahaved so badly........."It will be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, then it will be for a wealthy man to enter into the kingdom of God".
God bless the poor.....
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"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give"
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09-05-2005, 07:23 PM
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As much as I despise the idea of looting, I haven't had my home washed away,I haven't lost everything that I own, I haven't seen my neighbor floating face down in the sewage that I'm wading in. The list of human indignity goes on for miles only to be ignored by the Government for a week. Personally, when I find myself under severe stress, I find myself exploring the limits of rationality. Fema's job is to be there right friggin' now to show support,provide basic human needs and most importantly relieve some of that stress. Help the people remain human, if you will. People (You and me included) go nuts when stressed. Just my observation...
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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09-05-2005, 07:25 PM
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FT---The next time I'm sitting under a bridge, guarding my Wal-Mart stash, and taking pot shots at relief workers, I'll think of your rationalization....."rightly so"...........  Thanks
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09-05-2005, 07:30 PM
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Which Way Did They Go
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People (You and me included) go nuts when stressed.
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Not me....I usually go the other way when stressed.....granted, I never faced their conditions, but generally speaking I operate best under pressure.
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"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give"
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09-06-2005, 07:33 PM
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Don't people take care of themselves anymore?
Another reason backing the 2nd and they where told to leave and chose not to. When in a SHTF situation you need to protect yourselves.
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09-06-2005, 08:16 PM
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Which Way Did They Go
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Empathy GM......how about those people who had no means to leave.....no money....no car.......no family anywhere else.......sometimes the folks who have so much tend to project their abilities onto everyone else, and that isn't necessarily fair to those who do not have as much. In other words, just because you might have means doesn't mean everyone has means.
There but for the Grace of God go I...........just my $0.02 worth.
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"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give"
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09-06-2005, 08:51 PM
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My 2 cents is you shouldn't live off the GOV't tit. Get out there and better yourselves. You choose to be poor no one makes you poor.
Also they where running buses for 3 days before the storm hit. They couldn't get out but they could loot and rape and murder HMM
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Originally Posted by Homerun04
Empathy GM......how about those people who had no means to leave.....no money....no car.......no family anywhere else.......sometimes the folks who have so much tend to project their abilities onto everyone else, and that isn't necessarily fair to those who do not have as much. In other words, just because you might have means doesn't mean everyone has means.
There but for the Grace of God go I...........just my $0.02 worth.
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09-06-2005, 08:55 PM
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Which Way Did They Go
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Wow Greenmeanie.....the "meanie" part of your name is perfectly fitting.....I'll pray that you never need someone's help one of these days.....oh that's right....I'm sure if you ever need help it will be a diferent story then.
Let me ask you something, what religion do you belong to?
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"You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give"
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09-07-2005, 12:35 AM
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First of all, people these days have zero survival skills.
The orders of failing responsibility in this disaster was initially upon the mayor of N.O., then the state government, THEN the federal government. This goes for the surrounding areas as well. The city of N.O. had a plan in place but failed to execute that plan. While the federal government made some mistakes, I believe they should be the last on the list taking any sort of blame for relief or lack of it.
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The future ain't what it used to be. --Yogi Berra
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09-07-2005, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenmeanie
You choose to be poor no one makes you poor.
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When Industry shuts down factory's and moves hundreds of thousands of Jobs overseas...TA-DA....you have Poor.
Simple math.....if you have 100,000,000 people that need jobs and you have 90,000,000 jobs you end up w/ 10,000,000 people with out jobs. these people tend to be poor...
Not everyone chooses to be poor, sometimes its just $hit Luck. There are plenty of poor people that would jump at the opportunity for a steady income for there families and would work there asses off too.
There are also plenty of Rich people s#^^^^^&g on the Government Tit and making tons of money that haven't done a hard days work in there entire life.
How many Ditches do you think ole' GB and his brother have dug in there lifetime??
Don't judge a man unless you've walked a mile in his shoes
Last edited by The Dad Fisherman; 09-07-2005 at 09:48 AM..
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09-07-2005, 09:07 AM
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great post 
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09-07-2005, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
great post 
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I want to run for President ( if no one shoots me first) Nebe, will you be my vice Pres.? 
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Why even try.........
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