They Think It Can't Happen Here Again!!!! - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

afterhours · 07-09-2005, 08:35 AM

oooooohhh eeexcuuuseee me bw, did'nt mean to insult your intellect. just stating my thoughts as simple as they may be. bet you don't know a lot- no i'm wrong you know it all.

beachwalker · 07-09-2005, 08:37 AM

nice response there afterhours keep up the personal attacks

where did everyones sense of humor go ?

this issue is SO serious. OMG I am SO angry. I want SO to kill some terrorists

I hate them SO much, like

afterhours · 07-09-2005, 08:40 AM

you should talk.

beachwalker · 07-09-2005, 08:40 AM

some examples please ?

BigFish · 07-09-2005, 08:43 AM

Hey...I am going to a cookout this afternoon and fishing all night long!

afterhours · 07-09-2005, 08:44 AM

sure- most recent - this post

i seem to remember your "stupid pu--ies comment"

i'm done with you.

beachwalker · 07-09-2005, 08:47 AM

stupib p***ssies doesn't sound to "personal" to me.

after you walk see if you can understand that you are avoiding substantiating things because you are wrong.

I have made plenty of personal attacks in my life but NONE were against you

please grow up

Homerun04 · 07-09-2005, 08:49 AM

Prudence and common sense dictate that it will happen here again, as well as tells us that most difinately there are terrorist cells already here in the US. As long as we have an open border, there will be no way of preventing this from happening here again.

We (USA) is holding on to a vision of the kind of country we want to be (e.g. open borders, freedom for all), but the terrorists are making that vision unrealistic. As long as there is an organized terrorists threat against the USA we will need to alter our vision of who we are as a country. Once the organized threat is eliminated, then we can go back to being the "open border" and "freedom for all" kind of country we want to be.

During war time things change. Eminent domain, for example. Did you know that during war time the US Government (Millitary) has the right to take any personal property they need, as well as mandate any company in the US to stop doing what they are doing and begin manufacturing goods for the US Military? Where are all the ACLU people complaining about that? It happened extensively during WWII.

The differnce is in the US and UK our defense contractors are actually private firms. I can share stories with you about the US Gov't funnelling money to these firms during peace times in an effort to make sure they stay viable for war time. Ever heard of phantom projects? But the Governemtn doesn't have top only rely on these firms -- they can force ANY company to begin production on behalf of the US Military.

My point is simply that during war time, the rules change. Can it happen here again? Not only can it, but there is NO WAY IT CAN'T. I am surprised we haven't had a number of "copycat" bombings by some of our "native-grown" lunatics already -- and I am NOT referring to Native Americans. The ginie is out of the bottle forever..........

BigFish · 07-09-2005, 09:07 AM

I am retracting this thread....you can all take your ball and leave my sand box now!

beachwalker · 07-09-2005, 10:01 AM

Nebe · 07-09-2005, 11:27 AM

Repeat after me...."america can not solve all the problems in this world"

we should focus on our own problems. like improving our roads and bridges, bettering our schools, and heaven forbid we clean up our enviromental messes.

Homerun04 · 07-09-2005, 12:18 PM

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we should focus on our own problems

Huh? You mean that terrorists killing us isn't our problem....?? Why worry about the roads if we are all going to be dead if we don't address the immediate threat to our country first?

beachwalker · 07-09-2005, 12:21 PM

you're absolutely right HR.

guerrila warfare. we, and others, can never let our guard down anymore.

everytime we do ?

spence · 07-09-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Homerun04

Huh? You mean that terrorists killing us isn't our problem....?? Why worry about the roads if we are all going to be dead if we don't address the immediate threat to our country first?

You can make a pretty good argument that a host of domestic issues kill far more Americans every year than terrorisim ever will. Doesn't mean terror doesn't need to be addressed, but our Nation's priorities are certianly out of whack in many ways. You've said as much yourself.

-spence

likwid · 07-11-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Homerun04

Huh? You mean that terrorists killing us isn't our problem....?? Why worry about the roads if we are all going to be dead if we don't address the immediate threat to our country first?

On average 43,000 people die in car accidents each year.
17,000 of those are drunk driving related.

Statistically, thats a bit more "immediate" than terrorism.

And also statistically, drunk drivers are more dangerous *in the US* than a terrorist.

More people in the US *alone* die because of drunk drivers than of terrorism *worldwide*.