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Old 07-08-2005, 04:09 PM   #1
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Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
So then let's do it and end it all sooner rather then later, IMO.

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Old 07-08-2005, 04:10 PM   #2
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Then millions of innocents die because of a few.
Its all retarded.
All of it just makes me sad.

But I do especially hate one thing...

The media.

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Old 07-08-2005, 04:18 PM   #3
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Then millions of innocents die because of a few.
Anyone who would let terrorist scum live and train in their country are not "innocent" people IMO. That is something we all need to come to grips with, and in my judgement, something that no one wants to address. Iraq needs to get their borders in control and start preventing terrorists from entering their country. If they can't do this, then they are going to pay the price of American bombs. Nothing would make the US happier then to have secure borders around every Middle East country so this way we can start holding the governments of these countries responsible for the actions of their citizens.

Think of the pshychology....if you were an Iraqi living in Iraq your entire life, and you were oppressed your entire life, and if you hated your government all these years, and then the USA comes in and frees you -- wouldn't you use the very first opportunity you had to get the HELL OUT OF THERE.

Why aren't more people leaving Iraq now that it is free? IMO it is because while most Iraqis detested Saddam they still think the West are evil infidels. So are they innocent? I don't know.

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Old 07-09-2005, 07:00 AM   #4
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Then millions of innocents die because of a few.
Its all retarded.
All of it just makes me sad.

But I do especially hate one thing...

The media.

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and you are correct as well spence. come on now skippy, a.k.a. adolf give us a break
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Old 07-09-2005, 07:14 AM   #5
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back to the original thread. it can happen here with the large populace of muslims in detroit and brooklynn there may be a few with terrorist ties.
i beleive that a terrorist is a someone who targets innocent civilian populations and inflicts death and destruction on such to promote their cause. anyone who does so should be identified and destroyed no questions asked. this should be done to benifit ALL of mankind ALL over the world.

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back to the original thread. it can happen here with the large populace of muslims in detroit and brooklynn there may be a few with terrorist ties.
i beleive that a terrorist is a someone who targets innocent civilian populations and inflicts death and destruction on such to promote their cause. anyone who does so should be identified and destroyed no questions asked. this should be done to benifit ALL of mankind ALL over the world.

like. oh wow dude


that's so heavy.....


wake up and live... it's a dangerous world... it can happen here but maybe it will happen there ? I don't know. I like that.... "I don't know"....
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but I am not saying your wrong afterhours

just goofing on the severity of the statement....
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oooooohhh eeexcuuuseee me bw, did'nt mean to insult your intellect. just stating my thoughts as simple as they may be. bet you don't know a lot- no i'm wrong you know it all.

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nice response there afterhours keep up the personal attacks


where did everyones sense of humor go ?

this issue is SO serious. OMG I am SO angry. I want SO to kill some terrorists

I hate them SO much, like
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Prudence and common sense dictate that it will happen here again, as well as tells us that most difinately there are terrorist cells already here in the US. As long as we have an open border, there will be no way of preventing this from happening here again.

We (USA) is holding on to a vision of the kind of country we want to be (e.g. open borders, freedom for all), but the terrorists are making that vision unrealistic. As long as there is an organized terrorists threat against the USA we will need to alter our vision of who we are as a country. Once the organized threat is eliminated, then we can go back to being the "open border" and "freedom for all" kind of country we want to be.

During war time things change. Eminent domain, for example. Did you know that during war time the US Government (Millitary) has the right to take any personal property they need, as well as mandate any company in the US to stop doing what they are doing and begin manufacturing goods for the US Military? Where are all the ACLU people complaining about that? It happened extensively during WWII.

The differnce is in the US and UK our defense contractors are actually private firms. I can share stories with you about the US Gov't funnelling money to these firms during peace times in an effort to make sure they stay viable for war time. Ever heard of phantom projects? But the Governemtn doesn't have top only rely on these firms -- they can force ANY company to begin production on behalf of the US Military.

My point is simply that during war time, the rules change. Can it happen here again? Not only can it, but there is NO WAY IT CAN'T. I am surprised we haven't had a number of "copycat" bombings by some of our "native-grown" lunatics already -- and I am NOT referring to Native Americans. The ginie is out of the bottle forever..........

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