Conventional confusion

[likwid]

Technically since braid is smaller in diameter you'd want the levelwind to move slower to tighten it up on the reel super close.

But levelwinds aren't an exact science, so this isn't really applicable.

[Diamond Tackle]

ok, now your just makin stuff up to bust my stones. its the opposite.
As proof take a close look at how a LARGE bobbin of thread is wound, then get back to me. Those bobbins are wound tight and proper. They do parallell but they also traverse (a relative of mine is in the knitting business, so just take my word for it)

[fishweewee]

John, I was using heavier than 50 lb. on a non-levelwind, chunking with 8nbait. I will never use Spectron again, it cost me a nice fish.

[Adam R]

I've been using 35# Cortland Spectron on my Penn 525 mags and 980's for several years and have not had many problems at all with it. It does leave some nasty grooves in my left thumb, but everything else I've used does also.
I usually cut back several feet of line before every trip or after a fish gets me into the rocks, but you should do that with any line.
I'm less than thrilled with my 525 mags. They are great casting reels but I've had a ton of problems with them. Drags, eccentric springs, bearings...
I tear them down and clean them / re-oil & grease about every 3 or 4 trips, so it's not like they are being neglected. They just don't hold up well to heavy use.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Tinman

ok, now your just makin stuff up to bust my stones. its the opposite.
As proof take a close look at how a LARGE bobbin of thread is wound, then get back to me. Those bobbins are wound tight and proper. They do parallell but they also traverse (a relative of mine is in the knitting business, so just take my word for it)

Nah, not busting your stones, looking at it from a wire perspective and how to increase the amount of line on the spool. Since its 0 stretch, think of it like a big spool of wire. Its stacked tight. I know what you're talkin about with large bobbins, but spools aren't *that* large. Look at a small spool of thread, its solid and tight turns.

[Saltheart]

Tinman , Nope , no experience at all with spectron , levelwind and non levelwind reels or even fishing in general. Just pulling it all out of my butt.

Oh wait I forgot , I went through everything you are talking about in 1997 and decided to fish Spectron on levelwind reels. I seem to remember doing all the hoopla changing bearings and removing levelwinds on Mag elites and trying them with both whiplash and spectron putting them back on with levelwind bearings from C4's so it had bearings on both ends and doing the rocket fuels and abec 7 bearing dance and buying Whiplash and tossing it and finally settling on the BG 7000CL with 50 Lb spectron. .

Anyone using 50 lb or less whiplash with a jig that weighs more than 2 OZ is setting themselves up for disaster. I know guys who use 65 LB Ok at the canal. I think if I used whiplash , I'd want 80 pound or so.

I don't know what you are doing that is giving you overruns do to the way the line is laying down on your spools. I never had the problem in 8 years of using 35 Lb or 50 LB Spectron on 6500 Abus , 7000 Abus , 9000 Abus or Calcutta 250's , 400's or the big Calcutta (700?). My guess is you're casting technique is lacking something and therefore you are blowing up reels and blaming your line.

[Diamond Tackle]

Salt,
Next time ill use lots of smilies so you dont get so offended. Were all just enthusiastically trying to share info here. Im not trying to insult you or question your experience, sorry if it came off like that.Some guys I fish with swear by on thing never even having tried the alternative, maybe its the joisey coming out. again I apologize.
Perhaps we can agree to disagree.
btw, My 700 calcuttas(non levelwind) also work very well with 50 whiplash, and thats with 8 oz of lead and a bunker head. No disasters yet.Just gotta wet the line first with a handful of water .
Just different experiences I guess.Been casting conv for over 25 yrs now,so my casting technique is not lacking I assure u. Hey, but none of us here are Ron Arra, so we can all learn from each other, myself most definitley included.

Likwid, i was referring to the bobbins, correct.

[fishweewee]

Everyone is different. Do what makes ya happy.

[fishsmith]

No need to drop the gloves save that for winter months. However the conflicting opinions are what make these threads (this site) so much better than sponser driven articles. The list of reels below are in order of what is recommended by SB members for a reel used to chuck bait/eels on a ten ft conventional rod -
Abu 7000
Squidder
Diawa sloSH30
Penn 525
Calcutta 400
Cabo PT
Avex SX