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Old 04-22-2005, 10:54 PM   #1
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Rick// two things to start with // & they ain,t easy //// stop the big time booze // work on the demons inside of you /// pm me if it helps /// ya think I was born @#$%^ nuts // it took years of hard @#$%^&89#$% work ///

thats what ya doing

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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!

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Old 04-23-2005, 12:39 AM   #2
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Rick, I take it you've consulted a specialist in sleep disorders. If you haven't, then I would urge you to. You have some world-class second-to-none medical care in Boston (Mass General being one of top hospitals, period).

If you think the risk-to-reward tradeoff is worth it, then by all means give it a try. You can always stop. I'm assuming the FDA has approved this medication for your particular condition.

My own bias is that I would rather not use meds long-term. Diet and exercise and stress management can work wonders in improving your quality of life.

But I'm not your doctor.

I pray you find a solution to your predicament.

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Old 04-23-2005, 05:48 AM   #3
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Exclamation several thoughts

as we are all walking bags of chemicals......................................... first

i always think "first" of a chemical imbalance and how to correct it....

and i'm not talking about FDA approved chemicals...
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in my OPINION the FDA couldnt approve themselves out of a wet paper bag!
they also created the RDA (recommended daily allowance) which is so far
off the scale from reality that its not even worth discussing.................
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how many times have you heard that an FDA approved drug is now suddenly
being called off the market because they NOW have found that it causes more problems than it was designed to solve......
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the problem with any medication is that eventually we become resistant to its effects requiring you to take a higher dose ...upwards and onward it goes
until you reach a saturation point and your liver finally says F U man .....
and /or your skin starts creating these huge poison excretion blisters to rid yourself of it.... then there's the recombination factor when several drugs being taken combine to create a whole new problem....its an endless and futile approach.
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i tend to agree with fish wee wee's assessment except that i would contact a sleep research center that will pay you $$$ to STUDY you while they seek an answer.... make money in your sleep ....and take advantage of it.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:48 AM   #4
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Good luck!!!

Seek professional help, if ya can

Hope ya get your problem straightened out!!!

Just watch them depressants, they can make ya do bad things to one self!!!!
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:00 AM   #5
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Having someone to lean on can be a big help when you're feeling frustrated and pissed,trust me.I've stopped drinking after doing something incredibly stupid last
Friday and my girl has been like an angel.

Your real friends and family will be there if you need them.

And remember there's always fishing to help clear the mind and give you some perspective.

Best of luck to you.

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Old 04-23-2005, 09:30 AM   #6
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Rick,
Like some have suggested try seeing a Dr on sleep disorders/ they love paying money to people to study them.
I would strongly advise you NOT to take anti-depressants, I have been there done that and that is one route you don't wanna go down.. You may get a good nights sleep but the rest of the day you will not even come close to being who you are...
The side effects from the meds suc bigtime. Worse than those fake potato chips (oily discharge) ... Seriously, I have tried a few of them and none were without some sort of side effect. I took them because I had to, not just cause I felt a little stressed (long sucky story).............
Good luck man, exhaust your other options first, and then maybe as a last resort... But you wont be bumpin any uglies if you are on the meds, like swingin a wet noodle
If ya need to talk or ya got any ?'s shoot me a pm or something.....

Used hard and put away dirty....
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Old 04-23-2005, 09:37 AM   #7
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Cool

Sorry, I have no experience with the meds, although there have been times when I know that they would have helped. One of my brothers used to sleepwalk and would carry on a conversation only to deny saying anything of the sort the next day. It went away when he quit drink and drugs and refocused his life. I'm sure that's only one of many reasons for this and I make no assumption towards you. Was just him. I gotta hand it to you or anyone else who looks your personal demons in the eye and goes after them. Idunno, just trying to express my support. Best of luck to you. See ya at the Race this year?
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:10 AM   #8
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Wink an old saying is

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Originally Posted by basswipe
.I've stopped drinking after doing something incredibly stupid last
Friday and my girl has been like an angel.
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don't get me wrong...as i drink plenty .... but mostly at home now....
because when you go out to bars people buy you drinks left and right....here's a shot-- theres a shot...everywhere theres a shot and shots - until your sooo stinking drunk...having a great time but.... not really yourself either....you are now the alcohol self.....

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Old 04-25-2005, 09:20 AM   #9
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Hey Rick, sorry to hear about your sleep problem. I might have missed it if someone else suggested it, but have you considered hypnosis? This works for some people for curing different vices and ailments. Don't know how it works on the subconscious, but it's certainly not intrusive or involves any drugs.

Fishing is a... discipline in the equality of men - for all men are equal before fish. ~Herbert Hoover
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