More sick SOB's

[Nebe]

Skip maybe the government could build some big detention centers for all the artists who do work that speak out agianst the president???? Or perhaps they should be forced to wear a patch on their jackets that says they are an artist who questions authority. If that artist was arrested, thats where this country is headed.

[ThrowingTimber]

Spence, Eben, you guys famaliar with Banksy's work in the uk & the us. ? That guys got some skill

[Flaptail]

Okay, get over it. It's art. It did what it was supposed to like Eben pointed out. Just as the artist had a right to say what he did in that work and you have the right to express yours in your opinion of it, it shows the beauty of the Constitution and both your rights and his to express himself are upheld for all to see. Free speech, free expression by both. What could be better than this? Once again, thank God we live in a country where you both can do this without ( we hope) retribution.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

O Once again, thank God we live in a country where you both can do this without ( we hope) retribution.

give it time flap... like you pointed out, we are being conditioned. Skip seems to be ahead of the curve -

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Eben

Skip maybe the government could build some big detention centers for all the artists who do work that speak out agianst the president???? Or perhaps they should be forced to wear a patch on their jackets that says they are an artist who questions authority. If that artist was arrested, thats where this country is headed.

Your missing my point. Of course people have the right to rip on the presiednt. I just thought the stamp was pretty friggen tastless and very borberline criminal. I meen it is illigel to to make a threat against the president right? You can rip on the president without putting a gun to his head and implying you want him shot right? Maybe i didnt make myself clear enough. I meen it is pretty scary seeing a gun to the presdents head is it not?? Or do you approve of this and think its tasteful? Should this artist get arrested if its ivestigated and proven he's no threat, of course not. But he should be investigated by the secret service as this is a threat against the pres. That was point. Not saying lock up people i dont agree with, thats insane. Only if it turns out to be a real threat.

[Skip N]

Man, i can't beleive i haven't dropped an F Bomb on Eben or Spence yet!

[stripersnipr]

If cutting and pasting a picture of a gun and the president is considered art by anyone.........I'm in the wrong business.

[RIJIMMY]

It would have been better if it was a sex toy and the pope was pointing it at GWB's head. Now that would have been art!

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Your missing my point. Of course people have the right to rip on the presiednt. I just thought the stamp was pretty friggen tastless and very borberline criminal. I meen it is illigel to to make a threat against the president right? You can rip on the president without putting a gun to his head and implying you want him shot right? Maybe i didnt make myself clear enough. I meen it is pretty scary seeing a gun to the presdents head is it not?? Or do you approve of this and think its tasteful? Should this artist get arrested if its ivestigated and proven he's no threat, of course not. But he should be investigated by the secret service as this is a threat against the pres. That was point. Not saying lock up people i dont agree with, thats insane. Only if it turns out to be a real threat.

here is your first statement.

Originally Posted by Skip N

All in the name of "art". Arrest the SOB who came up with this crap

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7480455/

now your back peddling. Agian, this artist has done exactly what he wanted to do to you.

[Skip N]

Agian, this artist has done exactly what he wanted to do to you. [/QUOTE]


No artist, just a grade A ass hole who wants the president shot apperantly. Thats the way i see it. The sheeeet that passes for art is incredible. If i was a real artist (painter, sculpture etc.) i'd be pissed that this crap is getting called art. any moron can come with that stuff. No artistic talent is required to make that crap. I'm gonna go take a pic of my dog taking a %$%$%$%$ and call it art.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Skip N

I'm gonna go take a pic of my dog taking a %$%$%$%$ and call it art.

well, what makes the difference is WHAT your dog would be crapping on. And plus, the poop movement is so passe'. the more avent guard artists these days work with dog vommit.
Who knows, you could get a nice grant from the National endowment for the Arts.

[likwid]

Giuliani said it best:

[Nebe]

oh boy

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Eben

well, what makes the difference is WHAT your dog would be crapping on. And plus, the poop movement is so passe'. the more avent guard artists these days work with dog vommit.
Who knows, you could get a nice grant from the National endowment for the Arts.

My dog did chew on a dead mouse last week she found out in the woods. Now that would certainly be some good art right!?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Skip N

No artist, just a grade A ass hole who wants the president shot apperantly.

Really?
He wants him shot?

Where does it say that?
I see no text anywhere around that nor a statement saying "I want to see him shot."
You've decided that it means he wants him shot, you're the one having the thoughts of it, he just made what he considers to be "art". You may not think it is but I'm sure many others do. There are far more important things to be doing than worrying about what some dude created thats causing exactly the reaction from your side of the view that he wanted.

He made you think about the stamp.
He pissed you off.
He made it into mass media.
He wins.

[Skip N]

[QUOTE=likwid]Really?
He wants him shot?

Where does it say that?
I see no text anywhere around that nor a statement saying "I want to see him shot."



Hmmm, Then do tell me what this stamp meens. A pic of the president with a gun to his head. Seems pretty obvious to me what he's saying.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Hmmm, Then do tell me what this stamp meens. A pic of the president with a gun to his head. Seems pretty obvious to me what he's saying.

It means whatever you want it to MEAN. Whatever you feel it MEANS. I'm not sure why I'm having an argument with someone who can't spell mean.

Originally Posted by Tinman

It only takes ONE nut to take that "art" seriously for it to be a problem.

Being offended by art isn't a defense, don't you watch Law & Order? Seriously, there have been about 20-30 cases blaming art for someone's actions and in all cases they were either a: mentally insane or b: using art as an excuse.

[Diamond Tackle]

Originally Posted by likwid

Really?
He wants him shot?

Where does it say that?
I see no text anywhere around that nor a statement saying "I want to see him shot."
You've decided that it means he wants him shot, you're the one having the thoughts of it, he just made what he considers to be "art". You may not think it is but I'm sure many others do. There are far more important things to be doing than worrying about what some dude created thats causing exactly the reaction from your side of the view that he wanted.

He made you think about the stamp.
He pissed you off.
He made it into mass media.
He wins.

It only takes ONE nut to take that "art" seriously for it to be a problem. There are a lot of unstable people on the loose, especially in times of war. Its does not take much to set them off. Just look at John Lennons killer, the guy that shot Reagan. These guys hear voices as it is, do they also need a VISUAL ?
This is not art, I would be EQUALLY offended if it was Bill Clinton or any other president/ex pres with a gun pointed as his head. These people are/ were our leaders, they deserve more respect than that. Remember respect? And if you cant give them that respect, get the &*$%& out of our country & go to Paris. There are plenty of "artists" at the Place du Terte you can Cohort with.
Thats just my .02

[spence]

I wish the artist could read this thread, he'd be lovin' it

-spence