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04-13-2005, 01:27 PM
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 that artist got exactly what he wanted out of you skip! you loose twice 
First for gettign upset about it(an artists goal is to strike an emotion or a reaction, be it positive or negative), and then secondly for calling out for the artist to be arrested, which ties into the constitutional rights that are being violated by the patriot act!!!! way to go 
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04-13-2005, 02:38 PM
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The exibit sounds pretty neat. I wish I could see other designs...
Skip, would you get just as outraged over a piece targeting sex abuse?
-spence
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04-13-2005, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
The exibit sounds pretty neat. I wish I could see other designs...
-spence
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me too.. good art is hard to come by 
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04-13-2005, 02:50 PM
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just doing their job
the secret service has to investigate any possible threat towards the president....and make sure that there isn't more to it...like a plan to try and shoot him.....as represented by the artists stamp "ART".... and until he's jailed for creating it there hasnt been any violation of his right to free speech. .
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04-13-2005, 03:23 PM
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a goongala goongala
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I think it's great how in our country we can still produce artwork that can be so controversial and misconstrued. People should be entitled to their opinions. With the FCC coming down on radio people have to stand up and express their opionions or one day we may not be able to. I understand that the Secret Service has to investigate but no direct threat was made... taxpayers dollars hard at work.
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"There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot."
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04-13-2005, 03:24 PM
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It's about respect baby!
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Nice composition on that, split 3 sections diagonal, nice piece. I just view it as art with a political statement 
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Domination takes full concentration..
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04-13-2005, 11:57 PM
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Skip, would you get just as outraged over a piece targeting sex abuse?
-spence[/QUOTE]
Of course not, if there was some art ripping on the priests for abusing kids who the hell could find that offensive? Every normal person knows abusing kids is wrong just like every normal person knows putting a gun to the President is wrong. I just dont understand thay someone cannot be offended seeing a gun against the presidents head. Even if you dont like the man you cant justify that. I never liked Clinton but would I ever imply that i wanted him dead? Not in a million years. Anyone who does is sick and twisted. Just like that artist.
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04-14-2005, 01:57 AM
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Skip, talk about incriminating yourself...
Think.
-spence
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04-14-2005, 07:57 AM
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Super Moderator
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He has a constitutional right to do it, be you a far left ,tree hugging, hemp-wearing, hippy liberal democrat or a far right, Bible-thumping, fire and brimstone spewing republican we live under the same constitution. If you Don't like it, don't look at it....thats your constitutional right.
If you start screwing around with basic rights then it can be appplied to evrything that is deemed offensive to people. Hell, some people view Hooters as offensive. Can you imagine the ramafications to this board if that were ever the case.
How about PETA....they view fishing as offensive, Do you want them to be able to arrest fisherman under the same reasoning that your arresting the artist for....because it is offensive.
If you don't like the exhibit....don't go to it
If you don't like whats on TV....Change the Channel
If you don't like what Howard is saying in the morning.....find another station.
Thats it....I'm off my soapbox.......time to fish 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-14-2005, 08:09 AM
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Reagan Republican
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Newport, RI
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Okay, this is a first, I have to agree with Eben.
I think that good art is often times controversial, I mean the Vatican hated Michelangelo. Whether or not I personally believe this is artistic doesn't mean it isn't. I believe that Hustler magazine is art, so my opinion is pretty worthless and uncultured.
On the other hand, the Secret Service had to investigate this. If they did not, they would be derelict. The article did not say that they arrested him, if they did it would be bogus.
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"I never trust a fighting man who doesnt smoke or drink." - ADM William "Bull" Halsey
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04-14-2005, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Navy Chief
I believe that Hustler magazine is art, so my opinion is pretty worthless and uncultured.
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Don't sell your self short......Larry Flint was the Degas of the 1970's
....and I would be dissapointed w/ ANY navy man that didn't feel the same.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-14-2005, 08:10 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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freedom to speak and express ones self is what we're about. i don't like that stamp, but he's free to create it. don't think for a minute that the artist won't be investigated by a multitude of govt. agencies.
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04-14-2005, 08:30 AM
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Registered User
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Skip maybe the government could build some big detention centers for all the artists who do work that speak out agianst the president???? Or perhaps they should be forced to wear a patch on their jackets that says they are an artist who questions authority. If that artist was arrested, thats where this country is headed.
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