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Old 04-13-2005, 01:17 PM   #1
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why arrest him? Doesn't he have the right to express his viewpoint?

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If you think about it, that can be taken many different ways. Like "bus-h suck, lets get him." or "Bush had a preverbial gun to his head, and had to take the actions that he took over the past 5 years, like the patriot act, in order to protect our way of life." I think I know what the artist was going for (#1), but regardless he has a right to say, draw, print whatever the hell he wants.

ISN'T THAT WHAT ALL OF THOSE BRAVE MEN ARE DYING FOR?????

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Old 04-13-2005, 01:27 PM   #2
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that artist got exactly what he wanted out of you skip! you loose twice
First for gettign upset about it(an artists goal is to strike an emotion or a reaction, be it positive or negative), and then secondly for calling out for the artist to be arrested, which ties into the constitutional rights that are being violated by the patriot act!!!! way to go
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:38 PM   #3
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The exibit sounds pretty neat. I wish I could see other designs...

Skip, would you get just as outraged over a piece targeting sex abuse?

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Old 04-13-2005, 02:39 PM   #4
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The exibit sounds pretty neat. I wish I could see other designs...

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me too.. good art is hard to come by
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:50 PM   #5
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the secret service has to investigate any possible threat towards the president....and make sure that there isn't more to it...like a plan to try and shoot him.....as represented by the artists stamp "ART".... and until he's jailed for creating it there hasnt been any violation of his right to free speech. .
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:23 PM   #6
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I think it's great how in our country we can still produce artwork that can be so controversial and misconstrued. People should be entitled to their opinions. With the FCC coming down on radio people have to stand up and express their opionions or one day we may not be able to. I understand that the Secret Service has to investigate but no direct threat was made... taxpayers dollars hard at work.

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Old 04-13-2005, 03:24 PM   #7
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Nice composition on that, split 3 sections diagonal, nice piece. I just view it as art with a political statement

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Old 04-13-2005, 11:57 PM   #8
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Skip, would you get just as outraged over a piece targeting sex abuse?

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Of course not, if there was some art ripping on the priests for abusing kids who the hell could find that offensive? Every normal person knows abusing kids is wrong just like every normal person knows putting a gun to the President is wrong. I just dont understand thay someone cannot be offended seeing a gun against the presidents head. Even if you dont like the man you cant justify that. I never liked Clinton but would I ever imply that i wanted him dead? Not in a million years. Anyone who does is sick and twisted. Just like that artist.
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Old 04-14-2005, 01:57 AM   #9
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Skip, talk about incriminating yourself...

Think.

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Old 04-14-2005, 07:57 AM   #10
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He has a constitutional right to do it, be you a far left ,tree hugging, hemp-wearing, hippy liberal democrat or a far right, Bible-thumping, fire and brimstone spewing republican we live under the same constitution. If you Don't like it, don't look at it....thats your constitutional right.

If you start screwing around with basic rights then it can be appplied to evrything that is deemed offensive to people. Hell, some people view Hooters as offensive. Can you imagine the ramafications to this board if that were ever the case.

How about PETA....they view fishing as offensive, Do you want them to be able to arrest fisherman under the same reasoning that your arresting the artist for....because it is offensive.

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Old 04-14-2005, 08:09 AM   #11
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Okay, this is a first, I have to agree with Eben.

I think that good art is often times controversial, I mean the Vatican hated Michelangelo. Whether or not I personally believe this is artistic doesn't mean it isn't. I believe that Hustler magazine is art, so my opinion is pretty worthless and uncultured.

On the other hand, the Secret Service had to investigate this. If they did not, they would be derelict. The article did not say that they arrested him, if they did it would be bogus.

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Old 04-14-2005, 08:10 AM   #12
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freedom to speak and express ones self is what we're about. i don't like that stamp, but he's free to create it. don't think for a minute that the artist won't be investigated by a multitude of govt. agencies.

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Old 04-13-2005, 11:43 PM   #13
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[QUOTE=zacs]why arrest him? Doesn't he have the right to express his viewpoint?



There must be a better way to express ones viewpoint that doesnt require showing a gun against the Presidents head. I know alll you far left libs love that because you dispise B ush so much but come on, This is just crossing the line. Not to mention threating the President is a friggen crime. Showing a gun pressed to the presidents head is pretty F'ing serious. Not art. Just a fcked up person who wants B ush to be shot. What else can you make of this??
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