so tell me

[steelhead]

HOw different are the plugs when you thru wire them with the wood removed and wire going thru, etc., than the test plug with screw eyes? Do you feel you loose some bouyancy? Particualrly smaller plugs?

[bassmaster]

dont know on that one steel, Me thinks it would'nt matter though. utin:

[Tagger]

Thanks Dave ,, hooks pretty far back now ..Top 1 is mine bottom 2 are original ballerinas,,( you still talkin about that damm ballerina),,I hear ya's But ya ,, fishes well and cast well but doesn't cast like a polaris popper.. On bouyancy, I have found copying freswater lures you can add more weight converting to salt for the added bouyancy you get in saltwater, The arrow shows where the orig is weighted ,just like mine .. trying another shot aft of hook to improve the cast as long as I don't loose the angle of the dangle.. Iwant 20 degress .. not 90 not 45 "20" ... Speaking of bouancy I've made this lure out of just about every type of wood ,. What I want it to do ,,. is cover water verticaly as well as horizontaly. And it does. AYC this thing stayed on top and that was that ..Hard maple or birch is the ticket for me .. Snap it down and it works sub surface . snap it up ..there it is .. Yes I've put alot of thought into this .. not just winging it ..

[Christian]

tagger, im doing the exact same thing right now.
maple spooks and spooks with eyes in the back. these are the 1st ones, and ive gotten them to float right without any lead, just using bigger hooks, definitly want to switch over to lead though and get some more distance.

[Tagger]

Shapes on your ballerina spooks look good .. fat head, little arse,,I'm using a 00 shot where shown .. Maple is good for what I want ,, birch dowels are equaly as good ,, I'm sure youv'e walked the dog in your day,, but you don't have to do all that .. just random tugs (darts) and it will act like a real bait fish . I caught so many fish on the smaller one i made the 308l wire on the arse was all streched out , Thats the one I lost at PA and Mac went down the next night and saw a little kid walking with his dad had it in his hand.. He traded him a brand new Mac pikie to get the beat up piece of junk back to me . kid was thrilled and so was I .. a good friend .. If the added weight throws the angle out to much I'll try a larger arse hook thanks ..You want the 20 so when you give it a tug it moves "darts" and almost suspends some what level .. looks good .. arse dropping to 45 ,,90,, would be no good ,,Because I like to fish it real slow sometimes {alot} not all that mental dog walkin..Although when there is alot of fish and the feeding is competitive i do the fast thing .. Then again when the feeding is competitive everybody is catching on something different. I could throw my shoe in the water and catch then ,,

[Backbeach Jake]

Man, this is the thread I been waitin' for all winter! A lot of theory here that I'll never live long enough to discover myself. Thank you all! So, how do you weight that shoe? Don't hit me.

[Tagger]

Success feels good,, Like talking about that,, never forget the ones i smashed with a hammer that didn't work so well .. You must have gone through a thought process on that red ceadar,fatty,single belly hook,black danny you had so much success with last year Fred... Excuse me ,,, I gotta go check my mail box again ..

[Backbeach Jake]

is right ! I never saw it swim! It was untested and new moon when I first threw it. I wouldn't a bet that I even hit water. Blind dumb luck. It's stuff like that that puts the stunned look on my face. Gifts from above that I know I don't deserve. Like I said before, I have sooo much to learn. I also have some great and generous teachers here.