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Old 03-15-2005, 01:55 PM   #1
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Is that good or bad?

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Old 03-15-2005, 01:59 PM   #2
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Thats nothing
I talked with 1 guy that has already distroyed 2 "new style reels"

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Old 03-15-2005, 02:13 PM   #3
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Did he run over them with his truck

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Old 03-15-2005, 02:27 PM   #4
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he has a nice puddle of oil around him in the water..looks like a chum slick

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Old 03-15-2005, 02:33 PM   #5
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I can hear Toby already, , but who would really want to own one of those hunks of chit? A shop in Falmouth now stocks them and for the life of me I don't get it. Get a Daiwa Saltiga if you want to pay big dough. I have played with both and at least those reels seem like they "might" be worth it.

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Old 03-15-2005, 02:57 PM   #6
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I can hear Toby already, , but who would really want to own one of those hunks of chit?
Steve,

Try fishing Squibby or Gay Head from the beach (up to your neck in water) with anything else, and you'll appreciate what a Van Staal can do. Heck, you don't even have to go that far. Go snorkeling in Falmouth with one.
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:15 PM   #7
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For me service is everything and everything needs service.

(Remember shimano platinum service = 48 hours...and if you have a real problem you have a new reel in your hands)
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:17 PM   #8
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Ben, I guess your right in one respect. Maybe Squibby or Gayhead you might need one but I still would be fine and my reel would be out of the water, me being so tall and you being a tad shorter. Here on the cape, even in Falmouth, the bass have this habit of swimming right up close to shore. Maybe if you guys weren't walking around in the water with them and scaring them half to death all the time they would do that where you fish. True surfcasters out where I surf fish on the outer cape never set foot in the suds (cept bassmaster and that drives me nutz when I fish with him). In %%%%%%% we have this spot called *&****&^*$#. It's pretty good in the spring and fall. Reminds me alot of RI. All rocks but the best fishing is right in them and around them. ( if Bassmaster sees this he will go nutz but everyone knows the place anyway) I fish that whole shoreline in November almost every night including all the jetties to the point and if you put one toe in the water they spook, a good 3/4 of a mile of rocky shoreline mixed with sand flats and boulders. Awesome needle spot ( they luv stubbys with feathers there bigtime). My old 704's would get dunked in water and sand all the time and they still work and my Spheros' and Stradics do too and all you do is hose em down and a touch of WD-40 and your off. I still don't buy it, at least not for the cape and try not steppin' on em it might work to your advantage! Salters soon! (Saltiga)

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Old 03-16-2005, 10:14 AM   #9
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I can hear Toby already, , but who would really want to own one of those hunks of chit? A shop in Falmouth now stocks them and for the life of me I don't get it. Get a Daiwa Saltiga if you want to pay big dough. I have played with both and at least those reels seem like they "might" be worth it.

VS=

OK Toby, you may fire at will.
Already made the switch. At the start of last season, I owned 5. This season is about to start and I own 1. I did buy a pretty Saltiga not too long ago. I dumped the VS's for the reason stated by Ben, paying for the yearly service. That is my major gripe with them. This damn Saltiga better work out. As I told Ben when we were talking this past weekend, I spend all this $$ on spinning reels and still throw conventionals 75% of the time. My problem lies in the times I do throw spinning, I need something that is capable of being under water, handling braid, and is "fail safe". It would be so much easier if I didn't fish so damn much.

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Old 03-16-2005, 10:22 AM   #10
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I don't get the expensive service and no decent warrenty on a costly reel. I could probably use a saltiga for those exteme nights but I would like to hear how diawa handles the service first. So I am waiting for Toby to test drive it first. Next year. For now I will stick with what is working for me.
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This damn Saltiga better work out.
Am very interested to hear your feedback on that very pretty reel. I might re-assess if the reviews come back positive.
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:46 PM   #12
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Is that good or bad?

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I dunno Spence, isn't 6 weeks an awful long time just to clean, lube and put new drag washers in a reel?
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Old 03-16-2005, 08:25 PM   #13
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Guess it depends on the expectation. I've never sent mine in yet...

Dare I ask how much the upgrade costs? I don't think I want to know.

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Old 03-16-2005, 10:02 PM   #14
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Uh oh.

Upgrade could be $200 or more. Not including the $35 annual service fee.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:41 AM   #15
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Why would ya need the upgrade? If it isn't broke don't fix it.
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:04 AM   #16
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I heard it was a small fortune as you need a new spool as well. It would be nice to have the sealed drag, but I don't plan to do it until I feel I need to. The regular drag seems to work just fine...

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Old 03-17-2005, 10:20 AM   #17
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I heard it was a small fortune as you need a new spool as well. It would be nice to have the sealed drag, but I don't plan to do it until I feel I need to. The regular drag seems to work just fine...

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Don't do it. There's nothing wrong with the stainless steel shaft on the old reels. WTF would you want to spend 200 beans for titanium and a drag you can't service or replace yourself, plus a new spool? Bad enough to have gears you can't get to easily.

I paid around 400 clams for each of mine. I should spend half again that much on each for a very dubious "upgrade"? No thanks
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