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Old 02-18-2025, 06:47 PM   #1
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And this all under the regime of the Progressive trend in our political system. How can this be? Are Progressives actually human? And capable of being paid off? Are they hypocrites, power mongers, Pretenders who grow rich at the trough of political power? Some of the Progressive grunts that took to the streets and protested early on may have been poor, but I don't know of any Prominent Progressive ideologue, early or current, or Progressive politician who is poor or "middle class. They seem to do quite well, much better than most, in their quest for some unattainable human equity.

Beyond filling their pockets and accruing power, I don't know what these grand Progressives do for the "middle class", or even the poor other than barely functional gifts.

On the other hand, the Rockefeller and Amazon and Tesla types create actual affordable products and jobs and wealth which can all be taxed to enrich the Progressive types.
After FDR and until Reagan the USA economy and the middle class grew at the fastest rate in the world, since Reagan productivity and profits have remained high but amazingly enough less and less has trickled down.
Meanwhile Republicans cut corporate tax rates, add to the deficit and reduce workers rights.
The current administration eliminated CFPB which directly returned Billions to taxpayers and more indirectly, cut NIH grants which act as multipliers to research etc.
The reasoning behind it has yet to be proven.
DOGE is proving to be as incompetent as everyone thought. An $8 million "saving" has been listed as an $8 BILLION saving.
That is 14.5% of their total claimed $55 billion in "savings" having been completely made up.
Meanwhile the FFOTUS has a presser and knows nothing
SWAN: DOGE and SpaceX employees are now working directly at the FAA and DoD, agencies that have billions of dollars of contracts with Musk's companies or regulate them. How is that not a conflict of interest?

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Old 02-18-2025, 07:09 PM   #2
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After FDR and until Reagan the USA economy and the middle class grew at the fastest rate in the world, since Reagan productivity and profits have remained high but amazingly enough less and less has trickled down.
Meanwhile Republicans cut corporate tax rates, add to the deficit and reduce workers rights.
The current administration eliminated CFPB which directly returned Billions to taxpayers and more indirectly, cut NIH grants which act as multipliers to research etc.
The reasoning behind it has yet to be proven.
DOGE is proving to be as incompetent as everyone thought. An $8 million "saving" has been listed as an $8 BILLION saving.
That is 14.5% of their total claimed $55 billion in "savings" having been completely made up.
Meanwhile the FFOTUS has a presser and knows nothing
SWAN: DOGE and SpaceX employees are now working directly at the FAA and DoD, agencies that have billions of dollars of contracts with Musk's companies or regulate them. How is that not a conflict of interest?

TRUMP: Well I mean, I'm just hearing about it

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detbuch Is from that part of America where everything is a conspiracy.. and Republicans have never controlled the levers of power in the Government.. and every problem is caused by progressives..

Its the laziest argument they have been making for over 70 years
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Old 02-18-2025, 08:20 PM   #3
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detbuch Is from that part of America where everything is a conspiracy..

I am not familiar with this part of America. I do know that leftists like to refer to opposing ideas as conspiracies. I suppose that righties also do. I don't know the part of America where everything is a conspracy.

and Republicans have never controlled the levers of power in the Government..

I disagree with you there, Republicans have at various times controlled those levers.

and every problem is caused by progressives..

I also disagree with you there also. Progressives cause more than their fair share of problems, but certainly not EVERY problem.

Its the laziest argument they have been making for over 70 years
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Well it's about time for you to stop making those lazy arguments.
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