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		|  01-21-2023, 11:14 PM | #61 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Excess deaths are typically defined as the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time periods and expected numbers of deaths in the same time periods. This visualization provides weekly estimates of excess deaths by the jurisdiction in which the death occurred. Weekly counts of deaths are compared with historical trends to determine whether the number of deaths is significantly higher than expected.
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		|  01-22-2023, 12:06 AM | #62 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Here you go Jim, try a little harder and you’ll figure it out.We’re all rooting for you
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 |  nowhere in there,,does it say how we’d know how many republicans died and how many democrats. 
 
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		|  01-22-2023, 08:35 AM | #63 |  
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				 | Not a single independent/Unenrolled perished in the pandemic. Just “D”’s and “R”’sPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  01-22-2023, 09:00 AM | #64 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  you need to look at the migration compared to what happening in other states,,at the sametime.
 |  I don't need to look at anything else as your comment was specifically about FL and 850 a day.  They only way you would be right is if you showed that the 850 per day who moved to FL in say 1990 all voted D and now all 850 per day all vote R. 
 
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		|  01-22-2023, 09:14 AM | #65 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  I don't need to look at anything else as your comment was specifically about FL and 850 a day.  They only way you would be right is if you showed that the 850 per day who moved to FL in say 1990 all voted D and now all 850 per day all vote R. 
 You either have that info. and have been holding it back or your statement is wrong.
 |  The thing #dupedjim doesn’t seem to grasp is that Florida has had the highest migration numbers of any state pretty much every year for the last century regardless of which party is in charge. |  
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		|  01-22-2023, 09:21 AM | #66 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  nowhere in there,,does it say how we’d know how many republicans died and how many democrats. 
 so you made that up.  because you can’t deal with the truth.
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There are big secrets about Florida people don't get.
 
1. There is no state more lavishly corrupt. Crony capitalism writ large.
 
2. The Legislature is wholly-owned by the lobbying corps. 
 
3. The beaches are degrading, the manatees are dying, the rivers and lakes are increasingly polluted, the marshes are shrinking, the birds are disappearing, the orange trees are almost gone, the open spaces are full, the highways are clogged, local services are overrun, the GOP has ruined education and thereby increased teacher shortages, but yea it’s great.
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		|  01-22-2023, 09:22 AM | #67 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  The thing #dupedjim doesn’t seem to grasp is that Florida has had the highest migration numbers of any state pretty much every year for the last century regardless of which party is in charge. |  watch the bar (try to) move again. |  
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		|  01-22-2023, 09:22 AM | #68 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  The thing #dupedjim doesn’t seem to grasp is that Florida has had the highest migration numbers of any state pretty much every year for the last century regardless of which party is in charge. |  Stop, your just going to keep the Jim's favorite hit returning like a bad nightmare. |  
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		|  01-22-2023, 05:01 PM | #69 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  watch the bar (try to) move again. |  i have t moved the bar once. 
 
How many times did you dodge my simple 
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		|  01-22-2023, 05:03 PM | #70 |  
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  Not a single independent/Unenrolled perished in the pandemic. Just “D”’s and “R”’sPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  01-22-2023, 05:04 PM | #71 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  The thing #dupedjim doesn’t seem to grasp is that Florida has had the highest migration numbers of any state pretty much every year for the last century regardless of which party is in charge. |  look stupid the states people are fleeing.  look at the states people 
are fleeing to.  WhTs the commonality of each group?
 
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		|  01-22-2023, 05:19 PM | #72 |  
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		|  01-22-2023, 05:27 PM | #73 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  Jim, is losing his mind. |  Oh it’s been gone since the mid terms. |  
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		|  01-22-2023, 06:14 PM | #74 |  
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				 | We really should feel sorry for him.https://youtu.be/Zh0pWlwSnxI
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		|  01-22-2023, 06:14 PM | #75 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  Jim, is losing his mind. |  spence, i asked you a very straightforward question.  this is your response
 
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		|  01-22-2023, 07:16 PM | #76 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  spence, i asked you a very straightforward question.  this is your response
 means i win.
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		|  01-23-2023, 09:13 AM | #77 |  
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				 | About 89 percent of Florida’s retirement 
Fla residents over 65 
Born in state 2.8 %.  Born out of State  18.2%. 
 
Just more evidence Fla migrations 
Has zero to do with Ron. Covid or no income tax 
 
The trend has been this way for decades 
 
Jim’s just stuck in his loop asking the same question a 100 times till he get the answer HE Wants.   No matter the facts provided 
 
This has been the GOP mantra since 2013 it’s was false then and false now 
 
Americans are relocating to Florida in droves, House Speaker Will Weatherford told a group of liberty-loving activists at the Capitol. 
Why? Freedom! It’s a quantity in short supply in those tax-loving states up north.
 
Fast forward 2022
 
Gov. Rons announced his Freedom First” annual budget.  lol. His Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis has suggested northeasterners are escaping “tax hell” for the income-tax-free Sunshine State.
 
Wash rinse repeat 
 
Yet Florida own newspapers disputes that propaganda 
 
It’s hard data to get,” MacManus said. “My big question is, ‘Were (new Florida arrivals) typical northeasterners who just want better weather and bring Democratic voting patterns with them, or more affluent people who were upset with lockdowns and who may vote Republican?’”
 
“If anyone tells you they know definitively,” MacManus said, “they’re lying.”
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florid...outputType=amp 
Will Weatherford says 1,000 people a day move to Florida because of freedom
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...rement-states/
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		|  01-23-2023, 11:13 AM | #78 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  look stupid the states people are fleeing.  look at the states peopleare fleeing to.  WhTs the commonality of each group?
 
 it’s not hard.
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		|  01-23-2023, 11:41 AM | #79 |  
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				 | They must have loved Rick 'Snake' Scott Charlie Crist's policies as well.... |  
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		|  01-23-2023, 01:35 PM | #80 |  
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					Originally Posted by spence  A lot of people moving to Florida are coming from Georgia, Ohio and Texas #I’llbelieveanythingonfoxnews |  which state sends the most residents to FL?  it’s not any of the states on your list.  Funny Spence, y uoleft off your list, the state that sends the most residents to FL.
 
It’s NY.
 
Make that wrong.
 
WHy don't they move in big numbers to CA?
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					Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND  They must have loved Rick 'Snake' Scott Charlie Crist's policies as well.... |  Bryan, which states took marching orders from teachers unions and kept kids out of school for as long as possible?  And which states were the first ones to put kids in school, where they belong?  Is that  an important part of determining who  handled covid well, and who didn’t?
 
while your side was saying Cuomo was the “gold standard” of 
covid management  and literally inventing new awards to toss at his feet, Desantis showed enormous balls, bucked the trend, responded correctly to the science ( which should matter to you more than the politics, but we all know it doesn’t) and actually looked out for his residents. Compare that to gavin newsom who imposed unnecessary lockdowns and kept kids out of school while 
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  About 89 percent of Florida’s retirement 
Fla residents over 65 
Born in state 2.8 %.  Born out of State  18.2%. 
 
Just more evidence Fla migrations 
Has zero to do with Ron. Covid or no income tax 
 
The trend has been this way for decades 
 
Jim’s just stuck in his loop asking the same question a 100 times till he get the answer HE Wants.   No matter the facts provided 
 
This has been the GOP mantra since 2013 it’s was false then and false now 
 
Americans are relocating to Florida in droves, House Speaker Will Weatherford told a group of liberty-loving activists at the Capitol. 
Why? Freedom! It’s a quantity in short supply in those tax-loving states up north.
 
Fast forward 2022
 
Gov. Rons announced his Freedom First” annual budget.  lol. His Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis has suggested northeasterners are escaping “tax hell” for the income-tax-free Sunshine State.
 
Wash rinse repeat 
 
Yet Florida own newspapers disputes that propaganda 
 
It’s hard data to get,” MacManus said. “My big question is, ‘Were (new Florida arrivals) typical northeasterners who just want better weather and bring Democratic voting patterns with them, or more affluent people who were upset with lockdowns and who may vote Republican?’”
 
“If anyone tells you they know definitively,” MacManus said, “they’re lying.”
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florid...outputType=amp 
Will Weatherford says 1,000 people a day move to Florida because of freedom
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...rement-states/
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why don’t they retire to CA wayne?  none of giu will 
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		|  01-23-2023, 01:53 PM | #83 |  
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				 | Which state sends the most residents to Connecticut?NY
 As someone with a wee wee, you of all people should realize that size matters.
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		|  01-23-2023, 01:53 PM | #84 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  watch the bar (try to) move again. |  told you
 
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		|  01-23-2023, 01:57 PM | #85 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  huh?
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Read the article in the link it shows every states numbersPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  I didn't ask how any retire to each state.  I asked about the reason for the numbers.
 
Do you know the difference between a question that starts with "how many", and a question that starts with "why"?
 
The answer, which you will do anything to avoid, is cost.  CA is insanely expensive, FL is cheaper (not as cheap as it used to be as real estate prices skyrocket).
 
One reason what FL is cheaper, is taxes.  Taxes are a political thing.  Wall Street doesn't determine what state and local taxes are, DC doesn't determine it.  Local politicians  do. |  
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				 | 437,275 did move to California, the third-largest inflow for 2020. Florida was No. 1 at 647,910, then came Texas at 518,727.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  437,275 did move to California, the third-largest inflow for 2020. Florida was No. 1 at 647,910, then came Texas at 518,727.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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 in the actual world we live in People Move 99.9% of the time is for JOBS
  
According to data in the 2021 United Van Lines annual national movers study, the most common reason, by far, for moving during the years leading up to last was work-related.
 
but Jim gets sucked in with conservative Catch phrases now moving is Fleeing only if its from a blue state to a Red state 
 
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		|  01-23-2023, 05:47 PM | #89 |  
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				 | I wish I could flee this #^&#^&#^&#^&ty weather pattern and move to Florida, but for warm and fishing. |  
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		|  01-23-2023, 07:59 PM | #90 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  In jims world people only move for GOP Policies and no sales tax 
 in the actual world we live in People Move 99.9% of the time is for JOBS
 
 According to data in the 2021 United Van Lines annual national movers study, the most common reason, by far, for moving during the years leading up to last was work-related.
 
 but Jim gets sucked in with conservative Catch phrases now moving is Fleeing only if its from a blue state to a Red state
 
 But from red to blue states is still called just moving   go figure
 |  i keep saying there are many reasons. Maybe you and Pete have the same form of schizophrenia. 
 
the state that leads the nation in resident moves from out of state, is probably doing something right to attract all those people.  Disagree if you want, but it makes you look stupid. |  
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