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		|  01-05-2023, 08:21 AM | #1 |  
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				 | It’s scary, but predictable that dark money super pacs are explicitly part of the negotiation regarding who becomes Speaker of the United States House.It’s why the US is now nothing more than a managed democracy. When (most) of our elected officials have become beholden to campaign funding from special interests/lobbyists/corporations/billionaires, legislating for the public good becomes a conflict of interest & thus impossible.
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		|  01-05-2023, 09:16 AM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  It’s why the US is now nothing more than a managed democracy. When (most) of our elected officials have become beholden to campaign funding from special interests/lobbyists/corporations/billionaires, legislating for the public good becomes a conflict of interest & thus impossible.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  There's a lot of truth there.  It's a kind of the emergence of fascism.  And its been emerging for a long time, at least a century, and we're getting closer to beyond emerging and to actually arriving.  And it has a lot more to do with the Progressive movement's goal of managing society by government fiat and expertise than much, if anything, to do with the MAGA Movement which is far less authoritarian, more freedom oriented, more against being managed, more of a don't tread on me than a give me a government controlled existence. |  
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		|  01-05-2023, 09:33 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by detbuch  There's a lot of truth there.  It's a kind of the emergence of fascism.  And its been emerging for a long time, at least a century, and we're getting closer to beyond emerging and to actually arriving.  And it has a lot more to do with the Progressive movement's goal of managing society by government fiat and expertise than much, if anything, to do with the MAGA Movement which is far less authoritarian, more freedom oriented, more against being managed, more of a don't tread on me than a give me a government controlled existence. |  he did speak a lot of truth. And today, even big corporate money goes to democrats. Wasn’t long ago at all, that corporations have their money to the gop, that changed in the blink of an eye.  ot sure if corporations hated Trump or if it was a symptom of their wanting to embrace woke-ism do as not to anger the social 
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Not sure how anyone could claim today that republicans are more authoritarian than democrats. But they claim it. |  
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		|  01-05-2023, 10:03 AM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by detbuch  There's a lot of truth there.  It's a kind of the emergence of fascism.  And its been emerging for a long time, at least a century, and we're getting closer to beyond emerging and to actually arriving.  And it has a lot more to do with the Progressive movement's goal of managing society by government fiat and expertise than much, if anything, to do with the MAGA Movement which is far less authoritarian, more freedom oriented, more against being managed, more of a don't tread on me than a give me a government controlled existence. |  Sure it’s progressives fault that we live in the only developed country where medical bankruptcy exists.
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		|  01-05-2023, 10:28 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Sure it’s progressives fault that we live in the only developed country where medical bankruptcy exists.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  01-05-2023, 11:00 AM | #6 |  
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				 | Not sure how anyone could claim today that republicans are more authoritarian than democrats. But they claim it.
 
 read the January 6th committee’s report. It might help
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